nothing you can do right?

[kainARGH]

but take it up the butt?




Getting Hand History Information...
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Hand #31540613-7995 at Lompoc (Pot Limit Omaha 8/b)
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Started at 20/May/06 22:07:18

jen8 is at seat 0 with $1.75.
soitenly is at seat 1 with $.46.
Weasel48867 is at seat 2 with $1.77.
CallFactory is at seat 3 with $2.90.
WITHIN is at seat 4 with $2.33.
Lady Rhapzody is at seat 5 with $2.29.
Wild One is at seat 8 with $3.38.
poker phil is at seat 9 with $.58.
The button is at seat 3.

WITHIN posts the small blind of $.01.
Lady Rhapzody posts the big blind of $.02.

jen8: -- -- -- --
soitenly: -- -- -- --
Weasel48867: -- -- -- --
CallFactory: Js Td Jd 6s
WITHIN: -- -- -- --
Lady Rhapzody: -- -- -- --
Wild One: -- -- -- --
poker phil: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

Wild One folds. poker phil calls. jen8 calls.
soitenly calls. Weasel48867 calls. CallFactory
calls. WITHIN calls. Lady Rhapzody checks.

Flop (board: Jh Kh 8s):

WITHIN checks. Lady Rhapzody checks. poker phil
bets $.02. jen8 raises to $.20. soitenly folds.
Weasel48867 folds. CallFactory re-raises to $.38.
WITHIN folds. Lady Rhapzody calls. poker phil
calls. jen8 calls.

Turn (board: Jh Kh 8s 7d):

Lady Rhapzody checks. poker phil checks. jen8
checks. CallFactory bets $1.66. Lady Rhapzody
folds. poker phil goes all-in for $.18. jen8 goes
all-in for $1.35. CallFactory is returned $.31
(uncalled).

River (board: Jh Kh 8s 7d 8h):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

CallFactory shows Js Td Jd 6s.
CallFactory has Js Jd Jh 8s 8h: full house, jacks full of eights (high).
CallFactory has no qualifying low hand.
poker phil shows 2s Qd Kc Th.
poker phil has Qd Kc Kh 8s 8h: two pair, kings and eights (high).
poker phil has no qualifying low hand.
jen8 shows 8c Kd Ks Ts.
jen8 has Kd Ks Kh 8s 8h: full house, kings full of eights (high).
jen8 has no qualifying low hand.


Hand #31540613-7995 Summary:

$.20 is raked from a total pot of $4.54.
$.10 is raked from the main pot of $2.20.
$.10 is raked from side pot #1 of $2.34.
jen8 wins the main pot $2.10 with full house, kings full of eights.
jen8 wins the side pot $2.24 with full house, kings full of eights.
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[kainARGH]

lost twice with top set , this game is brutal. lost to top set 3 times also lol.

[Johny]

I'm no split game expert but isn't that a very weak starting hand? Playing split games you're trying to scoop the pot. You don't even have a low possibility let alone a good one.

[kainARGH]

I'm no split game expert but isn't that a very weak starting hand? Playing split games you're trying to scoop the pot. You don't even have a low possibility let alone a good one.

I had posistion and no one raised, theres no way I'm folding here.

[Johny]

I had posistion and no one raised, theres no way I'm folding here.

Why? Your hand doesn't have much working for it. You have J10s, J10os, JJ, J6s, J6os, 106os. You have a weak high hand and no low possibility.

[kainARGH]

basically because its pot limit and im playing with not the greatest players in the world.

so I miss the flop....fine im done with it. But implied odds are so huge if I flop a set or make nut str8 or flop trip 6's ect. It costs so little to see the flop compared to what I'm going to make if I can flop a monster.

[flafishy]

This is a 100% unplayable hand preflop. No low possibilities whatsoever and not that much in the way of high possibilities.

Unless you're getting a freeby out of the big blind, there's really no reason to even see a flop in O/8 with a hand that doesn't contain an A.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

JJT6 ds? Kain I thought I taught you better than that. PUNISH PUNISH PUNISH! But given the results of the hand, I guess you learned your lesson. Now stick to it, mister.

In loose high-low games, position make very little difference when you don't have a hand, which is the case here. You need to plug this leak in your game quickly, bud.

[kainARGH]

does it matter If I told you I'm folding after the flop If i don't hit a set or make nut str8?Or if pot odds are right I'll call i'f im drawing to the nuts, Say flop comes 9Q7 and I'm getting 10 to 1 on my money.

These games are often passive on the flop, so Its common to flop a draw, see the turn for free, make the nut str8, bet the pot and get 2 callers.

5 to 1 and we have the button and you won't take a flop with this hand? ( diamond and fishy ) I'm only playing to flop a set or flop a nut str8 draw.


Oh and diamond, I by no means consider myself a strong omaha 8 player. I do considr myself a little better then the other players at the micro stakes, but thats about it.

[flafishy]

An essential part of being a winning player is to keep your losses to a minimum. When you consistently play hands like this, all you're doing is pissing away your stack in the hopes that one time you'll get lucky and get back some of the money you've pissed away chasing it.

So you flop a set of J's. So what? A medium set like that isn't going to get you very far in O/8 most of the time. If you're lucky, it'll hold up as a high hand, but on those occassions that it does hold up, many times you're going to have to split the pot with a low hand. Big deal.

Toss it. Don't think twice about it.