TexasHoldem-Poker.com
Texas Holdem Strategy, Online Poker Rooms, and Holdem Resources
  • Texas Holdem Strategy
  • Beginner's Intro
  • Calculating Odds & Outs
  • Preflop Strategy
  • When to Bet
  • Cheating
  • Position
  • Bluffing
  • Poker Help
  • Poker Forum
  • Poker Etiquette
  • Player Interviews
  • Texas Holdem Rules
  • How to Host a Game
  • Poker Tools
  • Poker Database
  • Poker Calculators
  • Online Poker Tournies
  • Holdem Odds Chart
  • Poker Articles
  • Poker Terms
  • Links
Footer





Advanced search    

  • Board index ‹ Texas Holdem and Poker Forums ‹ Rules and Beginner Questions
  • Change font size
  • Print view
  • RSS
  • FAQ
  • Register
  • Login

Cash game rules

Noob questions, poker rules clarifications, "who wins?" questions
Forum rules
Post a reply
9 posts • Page 1 of 1

Cash game rules

Postby Aralzaman » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:35 pm GMT

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, but here goes anyway. I'm playing in a 3-6 cash game and am in a hand that goes to the river. I am heads up and out of position. I have a pair of tens and decide, given the betting, to try to chase the other player out so I make a bet. The other player deliberates for a while and then turns his cards face up showing a pair of Jacks. I assume he is folding and show my pair of tens. He then says call and puts in his chips! His claim is that in a cash game you can show your cards whenever you want as long as you keep them behind the line. The card room boss won't make a ruling and since it is not that big a deal, I let him take the pot. Was he right or was I a donkey for letting him have the pot?
Aralzaman
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:25 pm GMT
Location: Wisconsin
Top

Postby HalfSugar » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:44 pm GMT

That's a tricky one. In a card room, I don't think you should be allowed to show your cards to try and get a read regardless of whether you are in a cash game or tournament, unless you are playing the sort of stakes where the players dictate the rules.

In a home game, what he did would be fine provided there were no dissenting voices.

For the floor manager not to make a ruling is ridiculous, he should be shot.
User avatar
HalfSugar
King Moderator
 
Posts: 6215
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:20 pm GMT
Location: UK
  • Website
Top

Postby raisebot » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:57 pm GMT

In cash games, heads-up, generally it is allowed to expose either one or both of your cards before betting is complete, regardless of whether it is preflop, on the flop, on the turn, or on the river. However, house rules will always prevail.

For the floorperson to not make a ruling is ridiculous. Either he should say it is allowed, or isn't. Not too difficult of a decision.
raisebot
 
Posts: 616
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:06 am GMT
Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7681
Top

Postby Muck » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:08 am GMT

raisebot wrote:For the floorperson to not make a ruling is ridiculous.

Par! The floorperson what right to they have to manage the...oh wait :)

Wish I could just skip out on my responsibilities at work too. Sh*t I do! Damn I'm a hypocrite :roll:
User avatar
Muck
 
Posts: 2734
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:19 pm GMT
Location: Newport on Styx
  • Website
Top

Postby Jauron » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:38 am GMT

I personally feel the player who is about to show his cards should make his intentions clear to the dealer and the other player involved so there is no confusion. The other player can then decide if they wish to look at the hand.

No ruling by the floor is lolz.
User avatar
Jauron
 
Posts: 2598
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 4:13 am GMT
Location: Living in your walls
  • YIM
Top

Postby MrDarling » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:23 am GMT

The solution is easy, never show your card if there is no show down. Why do you want to give him free information?
MrDarling
 
Posts: 3886
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:24 am GMT
Location: Antwerpen
  • Website
Top

Postby jeffonline » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:19 pm GMT

Where I play it’s a rule that you are not allowed to purposely show your cards, if you do it’s considered a fold. Doyle Bruson in the bible of poker books advocates the showing of cards in certain circumstances then looking for reactions to make a decision, sounds like the villain read his book. Never show unless you know the house rule.
User avatar
jeffonline
 
Posts: 477
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:20 am GMT
Location: AUSTRALIA
Top

Re: Cash game rules

Postby smashmouth! » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:24 pm GMT

the rules on this are simple: in a cash game, if you are heads up, you can show one or both cards, so long as they are not thrown into the muck and "fold" is not verbalized. now, it is important to know what "heads up" means. you are heads up so long as no other player is in the hand at all. so if there is another player that is all in, say pre-flop, and you and one other player are still betting on the river, then you are technically NOT heads up, even tho you two are the only remaining bettors. the reason for this is that if player 1 is all in pre flop for $100, and palyers 2 and 3 battle on down to the river, then showing of the hand prematurely by ANY of the players could effect the outcome of what happens with player 1 (player 1 could even go as far as make a claim of collusion).
so, in your circumstance, the guy with the jacks wins the hand legit if there are no other players in at all, but forfeits his hand if there was anyone else in the hand that was already all in. of course, the floor manager is an idiot.
and incidentally, a 'donkey' is a player who routinely calls with garbage and wins. so no, u werent a donkey in this situation.
smashmouth!
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:05 pm GMT
Top

Re: Cash game rules

Postby HalfSugar » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:54 am GMT

smashmouth! wrote:the rules on this are simple: in a cash game, if you are heads up, you can show one or both cards, so long as they are not thrown into the muck and "fold" is not verbalized.

It's not that simple at all. The true answer is that you obey whatever the rules are in the card room / home game you are in. If they say that exposing a card kills your hand then that is the ruling regardless of the situation.
User avatar
HalfSugar
King Moderator
 
Posts: 6215
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:20 pm GMT
Location: UK
  • Website
Top


Post a reply
9 posts • Page 1 of 1

Return to Rules and Beginner Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

  • Board index
  • The team • Delete all board cookies • All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

phpBB SEO
Copyright © 2012 Ace Nine, LLC
Legal  |  Contact Us  |  Site Map