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Do you call here?

Postby odlozilik » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:48 pm GMT

Stage #1009581270: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-06-20 19:05:16 (ET)

Table: MURISON PL (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer

Seat 5 - SIREN ($111.85 in chips)
Seat 6 - CHALATECOSAL ($38.16 in chips)
Seat 1 - PUMPSTY ($56.79 in chips)
Seat 2 - BOOTY81818 ($247.37 in chips)
Seat 3 - ODLOZILIK ($91.30 in chips)
Seat 4 - SEO85 ($172.31 in chips)

CHALATECOSAL - Posts small blind $0.25
PUMPSTY - Posts big blind $0.50

*** POCKET CARDS ***

Dealt to ODLOZILIK [Kc Kd]

BOOTY81818 - Calls $0.50
ODLOZILIK - Raises $2.50 to $2.50
SEO85 - Calls $2.50
SIREN - Calls $2.50
CHALATECOSAL - Calls $2.25
PUMPSTY - Folds
BOOTY81818 - Calls $2

*** FLOP *** [5c 3c 9d]

CHALATECOSAL - Checks
BOOTY81818 - Checks
ODLOZILIK - Bets $8
SEO85 - Folds
SIREN - Calls $8
CHALATECOSAL - Raises $35.50 to $35.50
BOOTY81818 - Folds
ODLOZILIK - Calls $27.50
SIREN - Raises $100 to $108
CHALATECOSAL - All-In $0.16
ODLOZILIK - ??
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Postby Ensano » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:38 pm GMT

i say call... looks to me like siren might just be turning the heat up to get you out of the hand so his pair can go easily against buddies FD...
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Postby odlozilik » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:05 pm GMT

Is my call here bad (27$)? Should I rather push/fold?
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Postby Ensano » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:04 am GMT

odlozilik wrote:Is my call here bad (27$)? Should I rather push/fold?


don't really know what to say... i feel maybe 80% on my advice here...

depending on the player the c/r looks like an overpair that wanted to get a bit of value from your overcards when you cbet...

i think i would've pushed there to isolate and have a smaller overpair or FD try and catch up..

at first i didn't realize siren called the cbet and only raised after the c/r... this does concern me but i would need to know more about these villians
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Postby Phil14312 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:36 am GMT

Wow the ol' backraise. In limit its the nuts, but I don't know about NL. Something seems fishy. With the other guy practically all-in. If he had a monster wouldn't he be slowplaying it now? The pots about the right size for him to get it all-in by the river. Why does he want to get it in now?
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:34 am GMT

Wow man, this is sick, you're probably behind but I'd call because it's 100NL, and you have some outs. I had this situation yesterday (not exactly the same) and it was a set . I think folding is fine.
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Postby odlozilik » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:33 am GMT

Well, I was intuitively almost sure I am beat already, guessed one of them has the set. If the first re-raiser was deep, I think it would be a fold, but now there is a chance I get at least the side pot. If one of them has me beat, who is it more probably? The short stack, or re-pusher?
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Postby odlozilik » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:47 am GMT

I had an another a little bit similar hand yesterday, being on the lucky side. Was it a fishy move from the pf re-raiser?

Stage #1009810114: Holdem No Limit $1 - 2008-06-20 23:52:34 (ET)

Table: BENSON BLVD (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer

Seat 4 - HOFFER111 ($65.30 in chips)
Seat 5 - BANGHAMTON ($199 in chips)
Seat 6 - ODLOZILIK ($192 in chips)
Seat 1 - SSDEX ($159.25 in chips)
Seat 2 - SQUIRRE777 ($135.02 in chips)
Seat 3 - BORIK232 ($239.95 in chips)

BANGHAMTON - Posts small blind $0.50
ODLOZILIK - Posts big blind $1

*** POCKET CARDS ***

Dealt to ODLOZILIK [9d 9h]

SSDEX - Folds
SQUIRRE777 - Folds
BORIK232 - Folds
HOFFER111 - Raises $3 to $3
BANGHAMTON - Raises $10 to $10.50
ODLOZILIK - Calls $9.50
HOFFER111 - Calls $7.50

*** FLOP *** [9c 4s Qs]

BANGHAMTON - Bets $25
ODLOZILIK - Raises $54 to $54
HOFFER111 - All-In(Raise) $54.80 to $54.80
BANGHAMTON - All-In(Raise) $163.50 to $188.50
ODLOZILIK - All-In $127.50
BANGHAMTON - returned ($7) : not called

*** TURN *** [9c 4s Qs] [3d]

*** RIVER *** [9c 4s Qs 3d] [6d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

HOFFER111 - Shows [Ks 9s] (One pair, nines)

BANGHAMTON - Shows [Qh Ac] (One pair, queens)

ODLOZILIK - Shows [9d 9h] (Three of a kind, nines)

ODLOZILIK Collects $251.71 from side pot-1

ODLOZILIK Collects $194.09 from main pot
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Postby Jernej Zorec » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:41 am GMT

i dont like the preflop call with 99 in that spot at all,
but hey when u playing people who stack TPTK with 200bb i guess it aint that bad
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Postby odlozilik » Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:30 am GMT

Ok, here is the result. I have almost folded, but made a very crying call:

ODLOZILIK - All-In $53.30
SIREN - returned ($19.20) : not called

*** TURN *** [5c 3c 9d] [Kh]

*** RIVER *** [5c 3c 9d Kh] [Qc]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

ODLOZILIK - Shows [Kc Kd] (Three of a kind, kings)

SIREN - Shows [7d 6c] (king high)

CHALATECOSAL - Shows [9h 9s] (Three of a kind, nines)

ODLOZILIK Collects $104.88 from side pot-1

ODLOZILIK Collects $117.88 from main pot
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Postby Ensano » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:44 am GMT

lol... the one we thought had the nuts had crap and the one we thought had crap had the nuts...
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