How to play in 2nd hafe of tourneys?

[Rawhead]

I can bubble all day long lol. I play group 1-2- and some 3. I will double or tipple my starting stack. 2nd stage when blinds start to creep up I just get blinded away or I have no fold equity. Should you start to call and play with trash to get lucky?. I mean all these books tell you to play good hands but you can't wait on them in tourney by no means, any advise?

[Harpoon]

SnG or MTT?

[Rawhead]

MTT

[Rawhead]

I just called an allin with aa he had J!) off and got a str8. No one can tell me this game is more skill lol

[Rawhead]

J10 that is

[Harpoon]

MTT is a beast and needs some incredible patience, we all dream of cashing in for 50-200 times our buy in. Truth is that in a field so large you can play a tight solid game, make the right reads, get all your chips in at the perfect time but not cash in 90% of them (read Ciso_b's blog). When you do cash the payoff is huge and can make up for all the times you did not and then some. Personally I had never cashed in one other than just past the bubble and got my buy in back or maybe 2x BI till I read HoH 1 and 2.
Without knowing how you play in the middle of a tourney my best advice is loosen up if you have the chips to gamble with and try to steal blinds. If you are short stack look for the most opportune time to get all your chips in while you still have fold equity.

[Muck]

It sounds like you don't know how to play a low M game.

Harrington on Hold'em Vol 2 covers the concept very well.

[Ciso_B]

Waiting for that spot is the imperative when you have to play a short stack.You can fold AJ utg with 11bbs or u can reshove on the lag on the btn with KQs from the bb.

Look at the table, the dynamic and which people are playing too many hands and pick your spot. Of course it helps to hold up or run good in the situation you find yourself in. otherwise its irrelevant.

I keep finding myself with AQ vs AT or AJ vs KQ lately and losing all the time so getting the situation wont guarantee any sucess lol. But you can place yourself in the best situation to get back in the game.

[Rawhead]

Lost out of 4 $10 buyins after reading and understanding vol 2 you guys told me to read. At the flops is where I am losing my hands when I have the best hand. The last one I flopped top 2 pair I'm in the bb. 2 limpers. I check UTG checks and last to acks bets hafe the pot like he has all night long. I which would put him pot committed. UTG folds he calls with 2nd pair with a crap kicker and runs into a str8. Where is the skill in that. Happens to me always in the later stages of the game. If I do not play group 1-2-or 3 hands and play the aggressively I lose. If I wait on hands like that I get blided away. If you play continuation betting which is the easiest in the would to figure out you get called down. And last but not least how can you keep the pot small when you give them good odds to draw on you. Seems to me the roulette allin players seem to do better than anyone and theirs more luck to this game than any skill.

[LeeG]

After you get what you feel is a bad beat, run the hand through a odds calculator or through pokerstove and see how far ahead you really were.

Odds are, you were not as far ahead as you think you were. Even being a 3:1 favorite means you lose 25% of the time - pretty good odds but by no means crushing, and if you are giving people good pot odds, even calling isn't bad - its the right move.

Say you are at 200/400 blinds with 25 ante. Preflop there is 850 in the middle. One player limps and you raise to 1200. It folds back to limper. If he knows you have AA, KK, or AKs, what is the worst hand he can call with and be making the 'correct' move? The answer may surprise you.

Poker is all about making good decisions and forcing your opponent to make bad ones. Don't be too results oriented. Also, don't look at hands in isolation. How your opponent plays this hand against often depends largely on how you have played in the past. If you do nothing else, get Poker office, or poker tracker and replay your tourneys after they are over and look at what you did right and wrong. Look at statistics over time and look for leaks in your game.

[Jauron]

The game will continue to be all luck because you don't understand it, and you will only site examples where the dog won.

100% you didn't play perfect before the hands you mention, but instead of focusing on what you did wrong you focus on the times you got outdrawn.

[Rawhead]

hhhhhmmmmmm ok. Well my thing is I played and done very well my 1st 2 or 3 months playing online. Finished 2 and 4th the next week in the 28k on FTP. When I started to study the game from all these sites and started to learn strategy from other players It went down hill from there. No offense to no one and I do not mean to sound bad but I hear alot of talk about how someone else didn't plat well or didn't do something right but I haven't seen anyone do anything or prove nothing. And one real good example is this site called pokerz**n. What a rip off. All these guys try to do is get you to send them more money and you never see anything but new poker articles on there site. I looked up these guys stats and there worse than mine. I've sype with two of these guys while there in a tourney just to see them bubble out or fall flat on there ass and say how the guy that put them out made a donkey play. I would love to see a video of someone playing a tourney from start to finish. Multiple tourneys also. Not just the one where they made the bubble and start the tourney there. Is there anything like that out there? Or is it all a bunch of people blowing smoke? Thanks guys

[supafrey]

hhhhhmmmmmm ok. Well my thing is I played and done very well my 1st 2 or 3 months playing online. Finished 2 and 4th the next week in the 28k on FTP. When I started to study the game from all these sites and started to learn strategy from other players It went down hill from there. No offense to no one and I do not mean to sound bad but I hear alot of talk about how someone else didn't plat well or didn't do something right but I haven't seen anyone do anything or prove nothing. And one real good example is this site called pokerz**n. What a rip off. All these guys try to do is get you to send them more money and you never see anything but new poker articles on there site. I looked up these guys stats and there worse than mine. I've sype with two of these guys while there in a tourney just to see them bubble out or fall flat on there ass and say how the guy that put them out made a donkey play. I would love to see a video of someone playing a tourney from start to finish. Multiple tourneys also. Not just the one where they made the bubble and start the tourney there. Is there anything like that out there? Or is it all a bunch of people blowing smoke? Thanks guys

lol.

Don't link or refer to shitty sites noone has heard of, it makes you look like a spammer.

There are videos of people playing entire tournaments on several of the bigger strategy sites, yes. I'm not sure how that's any better than targeted videos that focus on the "early game" or the "middle game" or specific situations, but whatever floats your boat.

I think stars occasionally records their tourney winners' holecards and shows them after the tournies are over as videos. You could find them through the lobby.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

hhhhhmmmmmm ok. Well my thing is I played and done very well my 1st 2 or 3 months playing online. Finished 2 and 4th the next week in the 28k on FTP. When I started to study the game from all these sites and started to learn strategy from other players It went down hill from there. No offense to no one and I do not mean to sound bad but I hear alot of talk about how someone else didn't plat well or didn't do something right but I haven't seen anyone do anything or prove nothing. And one real good example is this site called pokerz**n. What a rip off. All these guys try to do is get you to send them more money and you never see anything but new poker articles on there site. I looked up these guys stats and there worse than mine. I've sype with two of these guys while there in a tourney just to see them bubble out or fall flat on there ass and say how the guy that put them out made a donkey play. I would love to see a video of someone playing a tourney from start to finish. Multiple tourneys also. Not just the one where they made the bubble and start the tourney there. Is there anything like that out there? Or is it all a bunch of people blowing smoke? Thanks guys

I think stars occasionally records their tourney winners' holecards and shows them after the tournies are over as videos. You could find them through the lobby.

lol this would send him backwards in most cases i suspect