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Postby **QUADS** » Tue May 12, 2009 11:55 am GMT

Well I think the topic covers the question. I have been playing online since Oct/08. I have probably sunk about a grand into poker. I read and read trying to improve my game. I am getting better. I can tell because I am starting to keep money in my account for longer periods of time, and I have been running deep in MTT's, but inevitably I go broke. So, how long did it take you to keep a bankroll consistantly. This summer I will be focusing on poker alot so hopefully I can have some better results. Thanks.
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Postby Muck » Tue May 12, 2009 1:21 pm GMT

For me it was about 4 years. For my friends it’s ranged from 6 months to never.

I think it depends on:
  • Effort
  • Ability
  • Experience


The more you have of each the less time it will take. It’s also the reason the time varies so much. Generally experience/playing cost money, effort costs personal time reading book/researching and ability just comes down to what you’re blessed with.

Looking at you’re bankroll and finishing positions aren’t actually the best way to judge, you should be analysis your game itself. If you’re deep in a MTT think about the major hands, were you a favourite? Did you get lucky? Always keep evaluating your game.

NB: I think we're have this thread before too.
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Postby Ciso_B » Tue May 12, 2009 2:17 pm GMT

Muck wrote: Always keep evaluating your game.



Quoted for truth. Think thats the first time I've ever said that. nice one freezey.
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Postby crack » Tue May 12, 2009 4:04 pm GMT

As soon as I started playing. I have never deposited my own money.
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Postby Muck » Tue May 12, 2009 5:01 pm GMT

Ciso_B wrote:
Muck wrote: Always keep evaluating your game.



Quoted for truth. Think thats the first time I've ever said that. nice one freezey.

Finally my random monkey’esk key bashing has produced something of value. F**k infinitely time lines it took a mere 30 years!


crack wrote:As soon as I started playing. I have never deposited my own money.

Is that because you're good at poker or stealing credit cards?
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Postby odlozilik » Tue May 12, 2009 5:07 pm GMT

crack wrote:As soon as I started playing. I have never deposited my own money.

Me too, I made my first 1K without the deposit. Just now I suck, lol.
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Postby crack » Tue May 12, 2009 5:23 pm GMT

Muck wrote:
Ciso_B wrote:
Muck wrote: Always keep evaluating your game.



Quoted for truth. Think thats the first time I've ever said that. nice one freezey.

Finally my random monkey’esk key bashing has produced something of value. F**k infinitely time lines it took a mere 30 years!


crack wrote:As soon as I started playing. I have never deposited my own money.

Is that because you're good at poker or stealing credit cards?



Won a freeroll YO!
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Postby gumbie » Tue May 12, 2009 5:42 pm GMT

The day your bankroll is consistent you are playing too low.
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Tue May 12, 2009 7:44 pm GMT

gumbie wrote:The day your bankroll is consistent you are playing too low.
+1 !!!!
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Postby Gunslinger » Tue May 12, 2009 9:07 pm GMT

Quads, based on the KK hand you posted in bad beats, your problem might be a combination of bankroll management and playing above your skill level. In that hand, you're sitting with 44 big blinds at $1/$2, which is not an easy level at which to learn no limit.

You say you've gone through a grand in 8 months. I'm hoping this is recreational money for you, and you can afford to lose it as you learn the game and get better. You should deposit an amount you're willing to grind it out with, and play at stakes that that amount bankrolls you for. Don't sit with a shorter stack at higher stakes, sit with a full stack (100 big blinds) at a lower level, and learn a solid game. Search the forums for bankroll management for detailed info, but you commonly should have at least 20 buy-ins to play a level, a buy-in equaling 100 big blinds. That means if you deposit enough to have $1000 in your bankroll, you should be playing no higher than .25/.50.

If you can afford playing at higher stakes, and the money doesn't mean much to you, you can stay there. But your learning curve will be a lot harder.
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Postby **QUADS** » Wed May 13, 2009 8:10 am GMT

Gunslinger wrote:Quads, based on the KK hand you posted in bad beats, your problem might be a combination of bankroll management and playing above your skill level. In that hand, you're sitting with 44 big blinds at $1/$2, which is not an easy level at which to learn no limit.

You say you've gone through a grand in 8 months. I'm hoping this is recreational money for you, and you can afford to lose it as you learn the game and get better. You should deposit an amount you're willing to grind it out with, and play at stakes that that amount bankrolls you for. Don't sit with a shorter stack at higher stakes, sit with a full stack (100 big blinds) at a lower level, and learn a solid game. Search the forums for bankroll management for detailed info, but you commonly should have at least 20 buy-ins to play a level, a buy-in equaling 100 big blinds. That means if you deposit enough to have $1000 in your bankroll, you should be playing no higher than .25/.50.

If you can afford playing at higher stakes, and the money doesn't mean much to you, you can stay there. But your learning curve will be a lot harder.


I played .25/.50 for a while and found myself getting sucked out on left right and center. So one day I decided to try an experiment and tried out 1/2NL. I acctually find those games easier to beat than .25/.50. I tripled up in 2 sittings. I do admit though I do need to work on my BR Management. And yes the money I have deposited is money I am Okay with losing. I'm not posing this because I am mad that I lost it all, I do understand that most people lose alot of money when learning this game and I am fine with that because I know I am improving. Thanks for the tips.
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Postby kompis » Wed May 13, 2009 5:03 pm GMT

i never deposited in my life

won few free rowls and now have hudge bankroll
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Postby Jonniedough » Sat May 16, 2009 12:37 am GMT

odlozilik wrote:
crack wrote:As soon as I started playing. I have never deposited my own money.

Me too, I made my first 1K without the deposit. Just now I suck, lol.


havent made it to 1k yet, but I never used my own money either
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Postby lwestatbus » Mon May 18, 2009 7:52 am GMT

odlozilik wrote:Me too, I made my first 1K without the deposit. Just now I suck, lol.


I deposited $150 several years ago to be three months' budget at $50/month playing 0.25/0.50 FL. I never dropped below the initial deposit level and ran that up to $1,000 in profit.

But as od says, Just now I suck.

Here's a heretical thought: Switch to fixed limit cash games while you are learning. Keep playing your NL tournys.

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Postby supafrey » Mon May 18, 2009 3:51 pm GMT

It's not "now you suck". It's that everyone around you has studied and learned more than you. The game is going to get harder forever, are you prepared to keep up?
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