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AA oop in mutli way pot

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AA oop in mutli way pot

Postby mortaleclipse » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:17 pm GMT

Im new to table, probably seen about 5 hands. No one has gotten nutz yet.

PokerStars Game #30576094323: Tournament #178348735, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2009/07/17 17:51:03 CT [2009/07/17 18:51:03 ET]
Table '178348735 297' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hesu (28714 in chips)
Seat 2: nutskuh (16990 in chips)
Seat 3: xander702 (27946 in chips)
Seat 4: CEASARS ARMY (1264 in chips)
Seat 5: snowblast (2512 in chips)
Seat 6: 10yoda10 (43704 in chips)
Seat 7: Mortal420 (35474 in chips)
Seat 8: rsrock (9171 in chips)
Seat 9: Zer0Variance (16012 in chips)
hesu: posts the ante 85
nutskuh: posts the ante 85
xander702: posts the ante 85
CEASARS ARMY: posts the ante 85
snowblast: posts the ante 85
10yoda10: posts the ante 85
Mortal420: posts the ante 85
rsrock: posts the ante 85
Zer0Variance: posts the ante 85
snowblast: posts small blind 350
10yoda10: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mortal420 [Ad Ah]
10yoda10 said, "bad cards when others have monster ones"
Mortal420: raises 1400 to 2100
rsrock: calls 2100
Zer0Variance: folds
hesu: calls 2100
nutskuh: folds
xander702: folds
CEASARS ARMY: folds
CEASARS ARMY said, "tell me about it"
10yoda10 said, "yu fold out"
snowblast: folds
10yoda10: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd 9h Td]
Mortal420: checks
rsrock: bets 3500
hesu: raises 5600 to 9100
Mortal420 : ??
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:04 am GMT

i fold
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Postby Garoen » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:20 am GMT

thats pretty sick man, looks like hesu caught his set and rsock may be pot commited with some kind of Kx hand. i can find a fold.

would be curious what the results were, when enough input has been gathered.
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Postby Ciso_B » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:50 am GMT

Don't hate a fold, but think leading out here is still best.

Check folding seems too weak since you really dont HAVE to be beat here, but betting protects your hand while also give's u better idea of your opponents.

By check folding to this action we could let some dip wiht K-Q get away with winning this pot.

I still don't hate the conservative route here,just prefer if you lead still.
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Postby HalfSugar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:13 am GMT

I snap fold.
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Postby Muck » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:31 am GMT

Since no one mentioned it i think the PF raise from UTG was a little low/greedy.
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Postby Jonniedough » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:33 am GMT

I agree with the folds!

Its hard to think your safe, betting out would have been the easiest way to make a decision best on further actions. (what everyone else has said)

You took control PF, keep control its the easiest way to make decisions, for the most part.
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Postby mortaleclipse » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:37 pm GMT

reason with no lead on flop that I believe im winning about 10% of the time on a flop like this. Unless I have reason to believe otherwise this flop hits both the ranges in the face
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Re: AA oop in mutli way pot

Postby Ciso_B » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:29 am GMT

I'm totally fine with the conservative route tbh, but I don't agree it has to hit both or even either of their ranges. Calling ranges vs an ep raise? Every pocket pair, AQ/AJs/ etc, maybe they're bad and play KQ etc too.. the only hands that beat u here are 99 and TT,which they totally can have btw, but not the K9,Kt,and only if they're horrible , QJ.

Basically I'd up that 10% alot more, I'd like to clarify 1 more time, I dont mind the fold after its bet and raised, I just don't agree on how often your behind or that they're hands smash this flop as often as you guys think.

And to muck, 3x raise isn't too small, looks fine imo.
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Re: AA oop in mutli way pot

Postby golddog » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:24 pm GMT

Ciso, you don't think the antes make the 3x bet PF a little small? I'm in line with Muck, I think.

Although I do agree, as played, let's put some money out there post flop.

I am kind of curious what rsrock was doing by not auto-shipping post-flop, if he's going to bet it at all.
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