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[jimmer]

$4.40 180 seater sng. 41 players left.

I'm struggling to know how to adapt my game on future hands to play CRAPAUD02. He has played 3 hands and hasn't shown any down, since arriving at the table 3 rounds ago.

Then this hand happened;

PokerStars Game #34359860456: Tournament #205883952, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/10/22 14:29:17 ET
Table '205883952 12' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: MPolo20 (8280 in chips)
Seat 2: jbdb3 (4995 in chips)
Seat 3: CRAPAUD02 (10325 in chips)
Seat 4: blaauw224 (2543 in chips)
Seat 5: Chandira (1605 in chips)
Seat 8: Anothy (1508 in chips)
Seat 9: Genach (6366 in chips)
jbdb3: posts small blind 100
CRAPAUD02: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [9h Qs]
blaauw224: calls 200
Chandira: folds
Anothy: folds
Genach: folds
MPolo20: folds
jbdb3: calls 100
CRAPAUD02: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd 8s 9s]
jbdb3: checks
CRAPAUD02: checks
blaauw224: bets 200
jbdb3: raises 600 to 800
CRAPAUD02: calls 800
blaauw224: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Qd 8s 9s] [4c]
jbdb3: bets 3995 and is all-in
CRAPAUD02: folds


blaauw224 is an ultra loose player who has pushed all-in 10million times with any two cards since the tourny started, he also bets/calls most flops and turns no matter the size of the bet (hence my all-in bet). However I don't want to talk about him.

My question: What notes do you make on CRAPAUD02 (if any)and how do you adjust your game to play him in the future?

(I can't make up my mind what his check-call on the flop means after a raise and re-raise?)

Can I use this to my advantage in the future? If so, how? It's just really confussed me. Or am I reading too much into it?

[miaowmiaowchowface]

? this is obviously standard

[jimmer]

? this is obviously standard

His betting was all over the place. There wasn't any rhyme or reason to the way he was playing.

I'm guessing I need to wait until he shows a hand down to learn more about his play, but in these tourneys I need info quicker than that, so trying to work out how to play him.

He just confused me.

[lwestatbus]

CRAPAUD02 is smelling like a type of player I see a lot in the $2 SnG satellites I play regularly. They are very passive, play a lot of hands, and will call down very deep and for a lot of chips with ANY made hand and many, many draws. You would normally think that this is a losing strategy (and it usually is) but these guys make 2 pair often enough that they stay alive and sometimes prosper. Add in the occassional trips, straights, and flushes on big hands and you sometimes see these guys make it very, very deep.

In this hand CRAPAUD02 got to see the flop for free and I guarantee that he either hit part of it or had a flush draw (two on the flop) or a straight draw (look at that nasty coordinated flop). Going to showdown against these guys with a single pair is risky because if they made two pair you are hammered. They will often show down with one low/medium pair hoping you were playing a busted big ace or something but if they raise on an innocuous board it is time to head for the hills unless you have at least two pair (as you did).

When I spot one of these guys I play them the same way you played blauuwxxx...don't give them a chance to draw out on you because they will try. If you get a monster hand you can milk them if they caught anything but your overpair or top pair is vulnerable. The worst of it is they could have ANYTHING so there is no indication that you are in danger.

Edit: You did say that CRAPAUD02 only played three hands in three rounds. This isn't horribly loose. If he was there long enough to have a read on blauuwxxx then he may have the same read you do and an open ended straight draw or flush draw may have looked like an attractive deal to him with two players in the pot.

The first thing I look at on new players is how much limping or raising do they do.