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I played this so bad....what an idiot

Postby golfey » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:54 pm GMT

Sitting in my local game last night (The Red Tooth Poker League), which there was only about 8 players there for some reason, top 2 got paid and its down to the last 3.

blinds have now gone up to 400/800, everyone has had their 1500 top up.

Dealer - Villan 1 ( 3000) - From what i gathered this player is very very tight. Very rarely shows down a losing hand when he is in the hand. Folds

SB - Hero ( 9000)

BB - Villan 2 (12000) - Was a monster chip leader at the start. Bets alot of the time. Previously checked the turn after he bet on 3 seperate occasions on the flop, which every time he revealed a monster hand

Dealer folds and im 400 in with K :club: 8 :diamond: .... i call,
Probably a mistake with the blinds being so high am i right enough in saying its either all in or fold?
Villan 2 makes it a min raise...(i remembered him showing a 10 8 of spades last time he min raised from the BB, so i call.

Flop K :diamond: 6 :diamond: 9 :diamond:

i check - and he leads out with 2k

now i realise the best thing i could have done was re raise all in... but for some bizarre reason...too many heniken i think i called

Turn 10 :diamond:

Once again i check, and he leads out 2k again

This is when i thought too much and remembered his previous 3 bets where he checked on the turn with a monster, so i was thinking why bet out with a strong hand, so i thought he was either on top pair trying to force me off the hand or on 2 pair

Now i know there was no point whatsoever in me calling. it should have been an all in. If he is sitting with 2 pair then im only giving him a drawing option

River 2 :club:

I check again and he instantly says all in

Obviously i thought about it, how high was his flush if he had one, did he miss it completely and try to put me off the hand, the 2 isnt really a scare card. So after being put on the clock i call my last chips away

Villan shows A :diamond:

Out in 3rd.

Should i maybe have waited so Villan 1 busted out and that would have gave me extra points in our league?
Granted i am still a beginner and certainly not used to live games, but i really shouldnt be playing that bad :oops:
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Re: I played this so bad....what an idiot

Postby Soup_dog » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:50 am GMT

well, i dont think the play preflop was too bad. It's three handed and you were in the small blind so I don't mind the call so much. Sure you could have pushed right there and taken the blinds, which probably would have been the better option.

After the flop you need to decide if you would call any sort of bet he might make if you check. If you think you would call it, then you might as well push then and there. Any sort of call post flop will put you in a big hole chip-wise and you will be all in by the river anyways. I would have had a really really hard time folding but if you did you would still be second in stack size. I would probably lay it down. Too many ways you are beat.

After the turn I would have folded for sure.
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Re: I played this so bad....what an idiot

Postby crack » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:40 am GMT

I don't like calling in the SB. You are best off raising or folding.

When he min raised you remember him having T8s. If you thought a min raise from him was a sign of weakness why not instead of calling it with K8o re-raising him all in?

What is going to happen when you play so timidly is you are going to get schooled.

On the flop if I am going to commit nearly a third of my chips with a top pair hand then I am probably just going to go with it and go all in.
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Re: I played this so bad....what an idiot

Postby Northern Hillbilly » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:09 pm GMT

All in or fold on flop no other choice . If you hit the flush on turn or river you have to figure your kicker is too small to take it.
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