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US News and World Report publishes Frank and Bachus argument

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US News and World Report publishes Frank and Bachus argument

Postby Golden Holden » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:00 pm GMT

The two representatives each submitted their arguments. Decide for yourself which has the stronger position.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/ ... achus.html
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Postby Muck » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:43 am GMT

On a poker forum I imagine that position to be bias :)

But my thoughts on the law anyway:
-Hypocritical, since other forms of on-line gambling like horses and the lotto were exempt (not sure if that’s still the case).
-Against human nature, since it’s supposed to protect morons with no self control. I know a guy who’s £30K in dept with about £2K of assets to show for it and has never gambled in his life.
-Wont someone think of the children, since we have no adequate means to verify age’s on-line…which is also why all on-line porn is banned in the US.

Summary it’s a bad law but until someone turns around with some money or influence it’s unlikely to change.
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Postby HalfSugar » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:58 pm GMT

How they have failed to demonstrate that poker is a skill game and not a game of chance yet is utterly beyond me.
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:51 pm GMT

HalfSugar wrote:How they have failed to demonstrate that poker is a skill game and not a game of chance yet is utterly beyond me.

"They" have. Everyone has. There are just a lot of idiots in denial who unfortunately are also in power.
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Postby Muck » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:33 pm GMT

Can you have professional poker players? Yes. If it was pure luck this wouldn’t be possible.

As for the arguments it’s not all about skill vs luck. The against are putting forward everything short of saying on-line poker funds terrorism.
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Postby Golden Holden » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:01 pm GMT

I often wonder why fishing tournaments are considered legal skill based events in most jurisdictions (I'm not going to bother researching, but I'd guess Bachus' state of Alabama has its share of fishing tournaments) while poker tournaments are not...
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Re: US News and World Report publishes Frank and Bachus argument

Postby abby » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:40 am GMT

I am of the opinion that the online gambling law and especially the online poker law is quite confusing. I am also of the opinion that online gambling does not harm anyone so why should it be illegal? I think that Barney Frank has a better point of view than Spencer Bachus.
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Re: US News and World Report publishes Frank and Bachus argument

Postby jimmer » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:28 pm GMT

abby wrote:.......... I am also of the opinion that online gambling does not harm anyone..............
Are you serious?
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Postby Ensano » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:05 pm GMT

xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
HalfSugar wrote:How they have failed to demonstrate that poker is a skill game and not a game of chance yet is utterly beyond me.

"They" have. Everyone has. There are just a lot of idiots in denial who unfortunately are also in power.



they are sayign that
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Re: US News and World Report publishes Frank and Bachus argument

Postby HalfSugar » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:15 pm GMT

Holy thread resurrection.

Has poker been proven and accepted as a skill game in yankee land yet?
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