chip count

[invast]

How does this look for chip count per person. I need to know so I can buy the right amount of different chips. Thanks.

No Limit / Pot Limit Hold'em

8 person max:

- chip max
150 / 8 = 18
100 / 8 = 12
50 / 8 = 6

- chip value (amount)
0.25 - white (50)
0.50 - red (150)
1.00 - blue (150)
3.00 - green (100)
5.00 - black (50)
total = (500)

- chip amount per person
1.50 (6) - white
6.50 (13) - red
17.00 (17) - blue
15.00 (5) - green
10.00 (2) - black
= 50.00

- blinds
advance blinds (20min)
0.25 / 0.50
0.50 / 1.00
0.75 / 1.50
1.00 / 2.00
1.50 / 3.00
2.00 / 4.00
3.00 / 6.00
5.00 / 10.00
10.00 / 20.00
25.00 / 50.00
50.00 / 100.00

[ballbp]

Looks like you got it set up pretty well. Raising the blinds every 20 minutes will speed it up and makes for some interesting hands when it gets expensive.

[invast]

my main concern is that 6 white chips will not be enough, but that is the maximum i can have per person if i only purchase 50 of them. But then again my reasoning for the few whites is that .25 cent bets will go out of play quite fast with the 20min blind raising.

[ballbp]

That's the same thing I ran into here. We actually started with more white chips but once the blinds went up, like you said, there was little need for them. One way to deal with it is to let everyone cash in their white chips for other denominations after the blinds are raised. I got tired of "coloring up" twenty minutes into every game though and decided to start the blinds at .50-$1. It just seems to work better.

Mindgame:Feel free to move this thread to another section if you want to since this is usually for questions on the chips themselves.

[invast]

hmm so maybe I shouldn't even get any whites and just add 50 chips to lets say my blues or greens?

[mindgame]

This thread is fine here. Just the sort of thing I spent way too much time pondering until I bought so damn many chips it didn't matter until I had three tables going!

Key thing--those whites. Only in play as the small blind for 20 minutes. Don't buy more than 25 unless you have to.

Also, the next denom up is red, right? Only really in play for the first hour. 100 is plenty. 75 would do. Blues are good at 150. I'd beef up the Greens to 150 or 175 if you can. We play twenty minutes at each limit--with the rule that the blinds must go all the way around the table at least once...and everyone is "encouraged" to avoid dragging out decisions like their playing for a couple thousand bucks or something.

The only other suggestion would be to find some purple--25 would be plenty--as a $10 chip. This would speed up later rounds by cutting down counting time. We take a 10 minute break every 80 minutes to color up...gives nice pause in the action to stretch or smoke...works fine.

[ballbp]

Smoke breaks every 80 minutes!!?? Man, I wish I could get my group to agree on that. Every 15 or 20 minutes when the blinds go up it's a mad dash to the porch. It actually works out well for me though, I just go outside and listen. They tell me how they played every hand over the last 15 minutes and then wonder how I knew they were full of shit the next time they made the same play.

[racquet000]

Smoke breaks every 80 minutes!!?? Man, I wish I could get my group to agree on that. Every 15 or 20 minutes when the blinds go up it's a mad dash to the porch. It actually works out well for me though, I just go outside and listen. They tell me how they played every hand over the last 15 minutes and then wonder how I knew they were full of shit the next time they made the same play.

lol sounds about right t me. I dont smoke but i love when people talk about what they did. Or even better when they ask you i tell them the complete opossite.....lol

[invast]

hmm i made some big adjustments to my planned chip purchase / count. 1000 chips per person (to make it seem more "real"). Tell me what you think.

8 people
No Limit / Pot Limit
Texas Hold'em

____________ chip value (amount)

white - $5 (200)
green - $25 (200)
black - $100 (100)

(I know I should be using red instead of white for the $5 but.. i like the white more :D)

____________ chips per person (worth)

white - 20 ($100)
green - 16 ($400)
black - 5 ($500)
= 41 ($1000)

____________ blinds (20 min levels)

$10 / $20
$15 / $30
$20 / $40
$25 / $50
$50 / $100
$75 / $150
$100 / $200
$150 / $300
$200 / $400
$300 / $600
$400 / $800
$500 / $1000
$600 / $1200
$800 / $1600
$1000 / $2000

[racquet000]

1000 chips per person? Wow thats gonna get expensive. I think at most 100-200 is enough as it will grw realy fast. 1000 would just take to long.

[invast]

no no no, lol, not literally 1000 CHIPS per person, 1000 in chips per person. (look at the [ ____________ chips per person (worth) ] section). The actual amount of chips per person to start is 41.

[racquet000]

lol.....I thought thats what you ment. But its late im tired and thats what happends. Anyway sounds like you have a good setup. Wish i could find a decent game around here. Nothing is consistant. Its all last minute and sucks...lol

[Guest]

Number of chips/person isn't the key to this.

If you give everyone 1000 (in value) and the smallest bet is 5, it's exactly the same as if you gave everyone 200 and the smallest bet is one, or 100 and the smallest bet is .50, or gave everyone 2000 and the smallest bet is 10--see what I'm saying???? They are only playing 200 betting units!

With 200 units the game will probably be down to 3 people in about 2 to 3 hours. Remember that in tourneys set up by casinos you don't get a lot of chips, but the idea is to get your money and get you out of there--so that they can reduce their overhead. So they want to cut the field in half at least every two hours. Saves on dealer expenses and frees up tables for sidegames which put money back into the casino.

Is that what you want to do?
When I set up a tournament I have different goals:

1) I want to see a lot of hold'em hands in a setting similar to casino ring game play, but not spend a bunch. In other words, I want some cheap practice to tune up for casino play. I want people to act like they might in a ring game and I tell them that after they play in one of my games they will feel pretty comfortable sitting down at a casino game.
2) I want to introduce people to hold'em and give them an exciting experience, but give them enough poker that they get value for a $25-$50 buy-in.

With this in mind I play pot limit, rather than no limit. By doing that and allowing one re-buy I am able to pretty much guarentee that anyone who's reasonably careful will last at least three hours. At the end of 3 hours there's not a lot of difference between pot-limit and no limit except you have to wait until the turn or the river to go all in. In my considered opinion (and I think Sklansky would agree) this takes more skill than no limit poker. I also give everyone between 500 and 750 betting units.

Finally, I have a time limit of 4 1/2 hours of actual poker. At the end of that three chip leaders are paid off--but the game has been finished by then, anyway, about half the times we've played and we've only had 3 left at the final buzzer once out of 8 times.