Question on cash game preflop shoving

[Brucio]

PokerStars Game #29034878249: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/06/05 19:08:57 ET
Table 'Taiyuan III' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: espartano911 ($3.86 in chips)
Seat 2: daro12 ($19.77 in chips)
Seat 3: xvanx ($11.15 in chips)
Seat 4: drunk_bender ($4.72 in chips)
Seat 5: IHazACarrot ($4.88 in chips)
Seat 6: Stason112 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 8: JBinNC ($5.81 in chips)
Seat 9: biggobugabo2 ($4.37 in chips)
JBinNC: posts small blind $0.02
biggobugabo2: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IHazACarrot [Kc Kd]
espartano911: folds
daro12: folds
xvanx: folds
drunk_bender: folds
AleKinder joins the table at seat #7
IHazACarrot: raises $0.15 to $0.20
Stason112: folds
JBinNC said, "oddly, i didn't have my 4 that time"
JBinNC said, "lol"
JBinNC: folds
biggobugabo2: raises $0.30 to $0.50
IHazACarrot:?

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Shoving would be fine. So would raising to like $2.50.

[Jonniedough]

Shoving would be fine. So would raising to like $2.50.

isnt that a bit steep he has 4.88, more then half his stack

in similar situations Ive been in villian raise is claiming AA KK QQS I think if you put 2.50 in, now if he comes over the top your facing AA or an aggressive Ax

I would make it about 1.50-1.90, if its reraised you have more of an idea of where you stand and then can decide to make a monster lay down or get away cheaper if he just calls and an A pops

[miaowmiaowchowface]

1.75 and ffs we are NOT under ANY circumstance folding

[Jauron]

Shoving would be fine. So would raising to like $2.50.

isnt that a bit steep he has 4.88, more then half his stack

in similar situations Ive been in villian raise is claiming AA KK QQS I think if you put 2.50 in, now if he comes over the top your facing AA or an aggressive Ax

I would make it about 1.50-1.90, if its reraised you have more of an idea of where you stand and then can decide to make a monster lay down or get away cheaper if he just calls and an A pops

Why are you considering folding KK preflop at .02/.05?

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Shoving would be fine. So would raising to like $2.50.

isnt that a bit steep he has 4.88, more then half his stack

in similar situations Ive been in villian raise is claiming AA KK QQS I think if you put 2.50 in, now if he comes over the top your facing AA or an aggressive Ax

I would make it about 1.50-1.90, if its reraised you have more of an idea of where you stand and then can decide to make a monster lay down or get away cheaper if he just calls and an A pops

You're not laying down ever. You are happy if he pushes back.

[Jonniedough]

I don't like committing everything preflop in a cash game unless its As.

If you think your beat do you still call ANY hand down?

Why are you considering folding KK preflop at .02/.05?

if your at 50/100 do you fold your kings given the same scenario.

I wasn't saying fold but he can make a better decision because he has more of an idea of where he stands with a smaller raise, and are still in with out having to rebuy IF you make a MONSTER lay down.
Its happened, people do it, some here had it happen to them theres a post somewhere.

[kompis]

I don't like committing everything preflop in a cash game unless its As.

That is horrible

[Kemics]

i thought inless you're uber deep stacked or have an oreo-read its ship it PF.

[supafrey]

I don't like committing everything preflop in a cash game unless its As.

If you think your beat do you still call ANY hand down?

Why are you considering folding KK preflop at .02/.05?

if your at 50/100 do you fold your kings given the same scenario.

I wasn't saying fold but he can make a better decision because he has more of an idea of where he stands with a smaller raise, and are still in with out having to rebuy IF you make a MONSTER lay down.
Its happened, people do it, some here had it happen to them theres a post somewhere.

this is all pretty terrible

[miaowmiaowchowface]

I don't like committing everything preflop in a cash game unless its As.

If you think your beat do you still call ANY hand down?

Why are you considering folding KK preflop at .02/.05?

if your at 50/100 do you fold your kings given the same scenario.




YES

[Jonniedough]

Brucio sorry to hijack this thread, back on track...

Majority says DONT FOLD so do my hand histories.

a better question may have been, How do you get maximum value for KK!?

I rechecked my HHs and I dont fold KK. I did once on accident.

Ive won 73% of the time with them.

Folded 8 times on the flop

5 times on the turn

4 times on the river

I dont really see much info from the previous posts that may help you answer your question about preflop shoving.

I raise 3-4x preflop

if reraised, depending on the size of the raise and the size of my stack its either 2.5-3 times what they raised or all in if Im short.

If reraised again by this point you both are probably close to all in so shove.