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Postby Dat_Dude » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:49 am GMT

I am pretty good with odds, but a buddy had a question that I wanted to verify. I feel kind of silly even asking, but it is mainly semantics.

Is the percentage of a hand PREFLOP represent the percentage of the time it wins if it goes all the way to showdown?

For Example:

Player 1: A :diamond: A :club:
Player 2: 6 :spade: 6 :diamond:

Now I know that Player 1 PREFLOP is almost an 81% favorite to win that hand. Does this mean 81% of the time this hand will win if it goes all the way to showdown?
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Postby Dave B » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:59 am GMT

yes
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Postby supafrey » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:12 am GMT

nods.
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Postby Johny » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:55 pm GMT

What else could it mean? :P
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Postby kainARGH » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:08 pm GMT

Johny4444 wrote:What else could it mean? :P



I sympathize with OP , as I used to struggle with the following concept.

If your 47/53 % to win a hand PF ...... yest on the turn say your NOW 95% likly to win ..... and you lose.......Did I just suffer a 5% bad beat , or no beat at all as it was nearly 50/50 pre flop?

Example ,

cash game:

1010 VS AKs

flop Axx turn x river 10

Now we were just 50/50 pre flop , but afte the flop and turn , I was only loseing 5% of the time....I think I overthink stuff to much :)
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Postby tame_deuces » Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:21 pm GMT

kainARGH wrote:
Johny4444 wrote:What else could it mean? :P



I sympathize with OP , as I used to struggle with the following concept.

If your 47/53 % to win a hand PF ...... yest on the turn say your NOW 95% likly to win ..... and you lose.......Did I just suffer a 5% bad beat , or no beat at all as it was nearly 50/50 pre flop?

Example ,

cash game:

1010 VS AKs

flop Axx turn x river 10

Now we were just 50/50 pre flop , but afte the flop and turn , I was only loseing 5% of the time....I think I overthink stuff to much :)


Following this logic you would deliver a horrible bad beat if you got all in preflop with AA vs 65, flop comes 347, turn A, river 3. :D

Always look at the odds from where the money went in.
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Postby kainARGH » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:15 pm GMT

tame_deuces wrote:
kainARGH wrote:
Johny4444 wrote:What else could it mean? :P



I sympathize with OP , as I used to struggle with the following concept.

If your 47/53 % to win a hand PF ...... yest on the turn say your NOW 95% likly to win ..... and you lose.......Did I just suffer a 5% bad beat , or no beat at all as it was nearly 50/50 pre flop?

Example ,

cash game:

1010 VS AKs

flop Axx turn x river 10

Now we were just 50/50 pre flop , but afte the flop and turn , I was only loseing 5% of the time....I think I overthink stuff to much :)


Following this logic you would deliver a horrible bad beat if you got all in preflop with AA vs 65, flop comes 347, turn A, river 3. :D

Always look at the odds from where the money went in.



yea , it took me a little while to finally relize - duh! its odds from the perspective of - how many chips were paid off and at what point.
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