Raise river?

[ErinJeff]

No reads or hands on V. I probably should have check raised this flop, but didn't. The river minraise suggests trips, or that I was crushed on the flop by AQ or QT, although these hands should be protecting against the flush. Thoughts on raising this river...

PokerStars Game #21122479773: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/11 23:04:12 ET
Table 'Tithonus' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hardwidg ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 2: cwesterhold ($47 in chips)
Seat 3: DeSotoJo ($33.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Absolute300 ($24.25 in chips)
Seat 5: theDriller ($43.50 in chips)
Seat 6: ErinJeff ($55.40 in chips)
Seat 7: OMGBentley ($54.10 in chips)
Seat 8: 3GEORGE33 ($49.55 in chips)
Seat 9: DoughBoy0711 ($54.35 in chips)
ErinJeff: posts small blind $0.25
OMGBentley: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [7h 9h]
3GEORGE33: calls $0.50
DoughBoy0711: folds
hardwidg: folds
cwesterhold: folds
DeSotoJo: folds
Absolute300: folds
theDriller: folds
ErinJeff: calls $0.25
OMGBentley: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd Kh Th]
ErinJeff: checks
OMGBentley: checks
3GEORGE33: bets $1
ErinJeff: calls $1
OMGBentley: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd Kh Th] [8d]
ErinJeff: bets $3.50
3GEORGE33: calls $3.50
*** RIVER *** [Jd Kh Th 8d] [Kc]
ErinJeff: bets $7
cwesterhold is disconnected
3GEORGE33: raises $7 to $14
ErinJeff: ??

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

You are so boned. He might have AQ and not put you on a flush draw, as that's a pretty stacked board. Whatever he has, it's almost guaranteed to be better. You basically have a bluff catcher.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

yeah, hes not valueraising / bluffing (lol) with worse enough, so just muck

[Gunslinger]

While I agree that you are beat a majority of the time, you are getting 4.5:1, and I think this is going to be naked trips at least 18% of the time, I would find it really hard to fold here.

[ErinJeff]

We could argue about the %s, but my thinking in this hand is that this is often trip Ks. On the turn I can't see a higher straight not protecting against the flush draw on the turn by raising, so that left me with either trip Ks or FH at the river. I decided decent enough chance of a FH (KJ being likely) so I just called.

Against a random unknown at NL50 I don't think I could ever fold this to the river minraise.

He showed K8 for the FH. I think he missed a lot of value against an unknown (me).

[miaowmiaowchowface]

We could argue about the %s, but my thinking in this hand is that this is often trip Ks. On the turn I can't see a higher straight not protecting against the flush draw on the turn by raising, so that left me with either trip Ks or FH at the river. I decided decent enough chance of a FH (KJ being likely) so I just called.

Against a random unknown at NL50 I don't think I could ever fold this to the river minraise.

He showed K8 for the FH. I think he missed a lot of value against an unknown (me).

stop trying to make sense, he doesn't raise the straight because he has the nuts and needs to tarp you

and I don't think he has bare trips enough to call, because sometimes he doesnt raise that

[kingetje]

While I agree that you are beat a majority of the time, you are getting 4.5:1, and I think this is going to be naked trips at least 18% of the time, I would find it really hard to fold here.

agree with this