Reasonable play or stupidity?

[jimmer]

I'm in last place (44th), still a long way from the money. A limp from early can't suggest that much strength.

PokerStars Game #43608157491: Tournament #269437333, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/05/04 16:23:16 ET
Table '269437333 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Freeway1988 (5815 in chips)
Seat 2: Brenda311 (5050 in chips)
Seat 3: sgerrard4 (3335 in chips)
Seat 4: Croato_BBB (3050 in chips)
Seat 5: sirgeo7 (3943 in chips)
Seat 6: jbdb3 (1514 in chips)
Seat 8: Stebelle (10476 in chips)
Seat 9: jcgb_81 (13360 in chips)
sirgeo7: posts small blind 100
jbdb3: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [Td 9h]
Stebelle: calls 200
jcgb_81: folds
Freeway1988: folds
Brenda311: folds
sgerrard4: folds
Croato_BBB: folds
sirgeo7: calls 100
jbdb3: raises 1114 to 1314 and is all-in

Reasonable play or stupidity?

[lwestatbus]

The big questions are what does he have and what will he do? (Aren't they always?) He is the second biggest stack at the table with roughly 7x your stack. I have seen lots of larger stack players limp with a wide range in tournys. This can include weak aces, small pairs, but also large pairs trying to trap a short stack. You don't provide any info on how many hands he's been seeing.

My guess is that you are going to be called. Unless he's a total moron (again, you don't provide any reads) his hand was good enough to limp with and your all in isn't all that big compared to his stack size and the pot size. Your hand isn't the best but you could get lucky.

I THINK that in this situation I'd see the flop for free and shove with any hit or draw. You could even shove on a missed flop if you think it missed him. You have a couple of more orbits so you are also in a position to wait for a better hand if nothing hits.

So, what happened? (Or do you even remember three weeks later?)

[jimmer]

So, what happened?

As you've pushed this topic back to the top of the pile, I'll wait a few more days before telling everyone, as i wouldn't mind a few more opinions.

On face value - if i get called I am a big underdog - but that's only IF i get called. Is someone going to call from limping UTG??? That doesn't exactly suggest a strong hand?

[jeffonline]

On face value - if i get called I am a big underdog - but that's only IF i get called. Is someone going to call from limping UTG??? That doesn't exactly suggest a strong hand?

I would treat an UTG limp into 8 by a big stack as a raise. However with your stack you must look for opportunities, it is possible that UTG is limping with AXs or 56s-QJs or 22-77, so I don’t mind pushing but you would have to think you are behind. You are at best 40-60. I would say reasonable.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

depends how often u think limper 1 folds. prolly gonna need to be 25% or so to profit at a guess, could be way off

[lwestatbus]

OK, this seems to be all the opinions you're going to get on this one. So what happened? Or do you remember?

[jimmer]

OK, this seems to be all the opinions you're going to get on this one. So what happened? Or do you remember?

Sorry, I forgot about posting this hand.

The actual answer was non of the above because i didn't raise all in. I actually thought about it for a while and decided it was too weak, so just checked. I then check-folded the flop.

Sorry for the delay in the reply.

[pokeraddict]

Reasonable Stupidity

[Broker]

your hand is to weak because you got no fold equity in my opinion.. if someone limps in ep, which is a bad play anyway, he almost certainly will call for ~4-5 bbs more.. and even the limp isn't a good play, more often than not villain has a better hand than you.. his range is probably something like: any small to medium pocket pair.. some aces.. some monsters and something like KQ, KJ are a big part as will.. all hand that have you beat / crushed..

[ak2009]

It's not a resonable play so what it could be...... Know very well. Avoid playing straight or raising in such situation. In such situation you should wait untill and unless you don't get something fair enough.