River: call or fold?
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River: call or fold?
I haven't been at the table long and stats for V are only for 20 hands (21/0/0.5). I know my bet sizing was off here and it would have made this not even a question on the river if I had made it $4 flop and $10 turn, but I didn't so now...
I can't see much that I beat besides 2 pr or smaller trips (kicker).
PokerStars Game #19175819807: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/28 - 17:18:43 (ET)
Table 'Saldanha' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: adamr100 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 3: semmlgeist ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 5: munnybagz ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mcRainus ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 7: ErinJeff ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: Tigak ($27.30 in chips)
Tigak: posts small blind $0.25
adamr100: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Js Ah]
big_jimmy78: calls $0.50
semmlgeist: folds
87_owarroS: folds
munnybagz: folds
mcRainus: folds
ErinJeff: raises $2 to $2.50
Tigak: folds
adamr100: folds
big_jimmy78: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9c Jd]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $3
big_jimmy78: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Kh 9c Jd] [Jc]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $7
big_jimmy78: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9c Jd Jc] [Ts]
big_jimmy78: bets $10.45 and is all-in
ErinJeff: ??
I can't see much that I beat besides 2 pr or smaller trips (kicker).
PokerStars Game #19175819807: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/28 - 17:18:43 (ET)
Table 'Saldanha' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: adamr100 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 3: semmlgeist ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 5: munnybagz ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mcRainus ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 7: ErinJeff ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: Tigak ($27.30 in chips)
Tigak: posts small blind $0.25
adamr100: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Js Ah]
big_jimmy78: calls $0.50
semmlgeist: folds
87_owarroS: folds
munnybagz: folds
mcRainus: folds
ErinJeff: raises $2 to $2.50
Tigak: folds
adamr100: folds
big_jimmy78: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9c Jd]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $3
big_jimmy78: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Kh 9c Jd] [Jc]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $7
big_jimmy78: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9c Jd Jc] [Ts]
big_jimmy78: bets $10.45 and is all-in
ErinJeff: ??
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We bet over half the effective stack into this pot, which makes me hate folding. Only Q hands I see might be KQ, QJ, QT (which had us beat anyway), and Q with club draw. Is it unreasonable to suggest he might have a missed flush here?
Getting like 3:2 here, I don't think calling is really unreasonable, but it's true, we have only a bluff catcher. Folding a reasonable default play.
Villain misplayed his hand in epic fashion if he has a Q here.
Getting like 3:2 here, I don't think calling is really unreasonable, but it's true, we have only a bluff catcher. Folding a reasonable default play.
Villain misplayed his hand in epic fashion if he has a Q here.
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I hated doing it but I folded for the reasons many of you noted. I had in a 1/4 of my stack, hence my reluctance and desire for analysis. Yhansk.
PokerStars Game #19175819807: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/28 - 17:18:43 (ET)
Table 'Saldanha' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: adamr100 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 3: semmlgeist ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 5: munnybagz ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mcRainus ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 7: ErinJeff ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: Tigak ($27.30 in chips)
Tigak: posts small blind $0.25
adamr100: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Js Ah]
big_jimmy78: calls $0.50
semmlgeist: folds
87_owarroS: folds
munnybagz: folds
mcRainus: folds
ErinJeff: raises $2 to $2.50
Tigak: folds
adamr100: folds
big_jimmy78: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9c Jd]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $3
big_jimmy78: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Kh 9c Jd] [Jc]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $7
big_jimmy78: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9c Jd Jc] [Ts]
big_jimmy78: bets $10.45 and is all-in
ErinJeff: folds
Uncalled bet ($10.45) returned to big_jimmy78
big_jimmy78 collected $24.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25.75 | Rake $1.25
Board [Kh 9c Jd Jc Ts]
Seat 1: adamr100 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 collected ($24.50)
Seat 3: semmlgeist folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: munnybagz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mcRainus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ErinJeff (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: Tigak (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #19175819807: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/28 - 17:18:43 (ET)
Table 'Saldanha' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: adamr100 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 3: semmlgeist ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 5: munnybagz ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mcRainus ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 7: ErinJeff ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: Tigak ($27.30 in chips)
Tigak: posts small blind $0.25
adamr100: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Js Ah]
big_jimmy78: calls $0.50
semmlgeist: folds
87_owarroS: folds
munnybagz: folds
mcRainus: folds
ErinJeff: raises $2 to $2.50
Tigak: folds
adamr100: folds
big_jimmy78: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9c Jd]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $3
big_jimmy78: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Kh 9c Jd] [Jc]
big_jimmy78: checks
ErinJeff: bets $7
big_jimmy78: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9c Jd Jc] [Ts]
big_jimmy78: bets $10.45 and is all-in
ErinJeff: folds
Uncalled bet ($10.45) returned to big_jimmy78
big_jimmy78 collected $24.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25.75 | Rake $1.25
Board [Kh 9c Jd Jc Ts]
Seat 1: adamr100 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: big_jimmy78 collected ($24.50)
Seat 3: semmlgeist folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 87_owarroS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: munnybagz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mcRainus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ErinJeff (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: Tigak (small blind) folded before Flop
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awww, even thouhg ive posted hands that i fold in i wish you called...i wanted closure on this matter
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