So I played online a bit tonight

[Ciso_B]

grrr, 170 or so left, i can handle losing it, but just King the flop jokerstars, none of this crap pls.

PokerStars Game #27908541543: Tournament #160529615, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2009/05/06 23:10:38 ET
Table '160529615 46' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CptAAces (60708 in chips)
Seat 2: Neab (25210 in chips)
Seat 3: clvlndpete (44899 in chips)
Seat 4: TsmRider (13992 in chips)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (50036 in chips)
Seat 6: WadeShaq03 (31883 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: XXTickerXX (38010 in chips)
Seat 8: AceKeeper83 (28153 in chips)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy (10487 in chips)
CptAAces: posts the ante 100
Neab: posts the ante 100
clvlndpete: posts the ante 100
TsmRider: posts the ante 100
bobboufl11: posts the ante 100
WadeShaq03: posts the ante 100
XXTickerXX: posts the ante 100
AceKeeper83: posts the ante 100
pkt pr boy: posts the ante 100
Neab: posts small blind 500
clvlndpete: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [Ac Qd]
TsmRider: calls 1000
bobboufl11: folds
WadeShaq03: folds
XXTickerXX: calls 1000
AceKeeper83: folds
pkt pr boy: folds
CptAAces: folds
Neab: raises 24110 to 25110 and is all-in
clvlndpete: folds
TsmRider: calls 12892 and is all-in
XXTickerXX: folds
Uncalled bet (11218) returned to Neab
*** FLOP *** [4s Ad 5d]
*** TURN *** [4s Ad 5d] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [4s Ad 5d Qh] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Neab: shows [Ac Qd] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
TsmRider: shows [Kc Ts] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
TsmRider collected 30684 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30684 | Rake 0
Board [4s Ad 5d Qh Js]
Seat 1: CptAAces (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Neab (small blind) showed [Ac Qd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: clvlndpete (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: TsmRider showed [Kc Ts] and won (30684) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: bobboufl11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WadeShaq03 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: XXTickerXX folded before Flop
Seat 8: AceKeeper83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Ciso_B]

to be fair i did beat QQ with AK a wee while before this,albeit for much less chips.


PokerStars Game #27910001881: Tournament #160529615, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1250/2500) - 2009/05/07 0:09:42 ET
Table '160529615 46' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: CptAAces (45493 in chips)
Seat 2: Neab (95642 in chips)
Seat 3: clvlndpete (128970 in chips)
Seat 4: PeteFrampton (32112 in chips)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (41848 in chips)
Seat 6: WadeShaq03 (3508 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: AceKeeper83 (44806 in chips)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy (53772 in chips)
CptAAces: posts the ante 250
Neab: posts the ante 250
clvlndpete: posts the ante 250
PeteFrampton: posts the ante 250
bobboufl11: posts the ante 250
WadeShaq03: posts the ante 250
AceKeeper83: posts the ante 250
pkt pr boy: posts the ante 250
bobboufl11: posts small blind 1250
WadeShaq03: posts big blind 2500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [Kc As]
AceKeeper83: folds
pkt pr boy: folds
CptAAces: folds
Neab: raises 3700 to 6200
clvlndpete: folds
PeteFrampton: folds
bobboufl11: raises 35398 to 41598 and is all-in
WadeShaq03: folds
Neab: calls 35398
*** FLOP *** [7s 8h 9d]
*** TURN *** [7s 8h 9d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [7s 8h 9d Td] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bobboufl11: shows [7c 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Neab: shows [Kc As] (a pair of Nines)
bobboufl11 collected 87696 from pot
fattyzjoint is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 87696 | Rake 0
Board [7s 8h 9d Td 9h]
Seat 1: CptAAces folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Neab showed [Kc As] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: clvlndpete folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PeteFrampton (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (small blind) showed [7c 7h] and won (87696) with a full house, Sevens full of Nines
Seat 6: WadeShaq03 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: AceKeeper83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Ciso_B]

I tell ya, not all that much fun coming 54th out of 1800 or so. Still, glad i played well tonight.

PokerStars Game #27910402758: Tournament #160529615, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/05/07 0:27:21 ET
Table '160529615 46' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: CptAAces (34193 in chips)
Seat 2: Neab (29744 in chips)
Seat 3: clvlndpete (117670 in chips)
Seat 4: PeteFrampton (15562 in chips)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (101896 in chips)
Seat 6: cubbierae (59808 in chips)
Seat 7: fattyzjoint (140834 in chips)
Seat 8: B_Roy17 (82007 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: pkt pr boy (35972 in chips)
CptAAces: posts the ante 300
Neab: posts the ante 300
clvlndpete: posts the ante 300
PeteFrampton: posts the ante 300
bobboufl11: posts the ante 300
cubbierae: posts the ante 300
fattyzjoint: posts the ante 300
B_Roy17: posts the ante 300
pkt pr boy: posts the ante 300
PeteFrampton: posts small blind 1500
bobboufl11: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [As Qh]
cubbierae: folds
fattyzjoint: folds
B_Roy17: folds
pkt pr boy: folds
CptAAces: folds
Neab: raises 26444 to 29444 and is all-in
clvlndpete: folds
PeteFrampton: folds
bobboufl11: calls 26444
*** FLOP *** [5d 6s 6c]
*** TURN *** [5d 6s 6c] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [5d 6s 6c 6d] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bobboufl11: shows [Ah Ks] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Neab: shows [As Qh] (three of a kind, Sixes - lower kicker)
bobboufl11 collected 63088 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 63088 | Rake 0
Board [5d 6s 6c 6d Tc]
Seat 1: CptAAces folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Neab showed [As Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 3: clvlndpete (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PeteFrampton (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (big blind) showed [Ah Ks] and won (63088) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 6: cubbierae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fattyzjoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: B_Roy17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[jimmer]

PokerStars Game #27908541543: Tournament #160529615, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2009/05/06 23:10:38 ET
Table '160529615 46' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CptAAces (60708 in chips)
Seat 2: Neab (25210 in chips)
Seat 3: clvlndpete (44899 in chips)
Seat 4: TsmRider (13992 in chips)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (50036 in chips)
Seat 6: WadeShaq03 (31883 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: XXTickerXX (38010 in chips)
Seat 8: AceKeeper83 (28153 in chips)
Seat 9: pkt pr boy (10487 in chips)
CptAAces: posts the ante 100
Neab: posts the ante 100
clvlndpete: posts the ante 100
TsmRider: posts the ante 100
bobboufl11: posts the ante 100
WadeShaq03: posts the ante 100
XXTickerXX: posts the ante 100
AceKeeper83: posts the ante 100
pkt pr boy: posts the ante 100
Neab: posts small blind 500
clvlndpete: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [Ac Qd]
TsmRider: calls 1000
bobboufl11: folds
WadeShaq03: folds
XXTickerXX: calls 1000
AceKeeper83: folds
pkt pr boy: folds
CptAAces: folds
Neab: raises 24110 to 25110 and is all-in

So at the start of this hand you had an m of around 10 and decide to push all-in. I'm guessing this move is based more on the size of your chip stack and not theirs????

If so, what is the minimum amount of chips you need to make a standard raise instead of an all-in push?

[Ciso_B]

TBH , I didn't think " i have X "M" , so I should shove here".
I thought to myself, there's enough in the pot right now, I most likely have the best hand or at worst 50-50 since noyone opened pre flop, and a typical raise makes the hand somewhat difficult to play when you consider the stack sizes. So I opted for moving in. I could have made it like 8,000 then shipped any flop too I guess. But this time I chose to move in, and my assumption was correct.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

i prefer a raise there but im much more comfortable with my postflop

[Ciso_B]

post flop skill not much to do with it, you're out of position with like 25 bbs,playin people with 14/15x and overlimping with 38bbs. How much can you make it and feel confident post flop multiway.

The first guy is a passive/weak player but you know once he calls the 2nd guy is coming along too.

Not doubting your obvious skill at the game miaow, but winning the current pot which is what 4,500? (25% increase ish ) is more key than bloating the pot up out of position multiway.

I actually think limping here would be better than just raising, with shoving being probably the best option.