Standard preflop fold with AKo?

[ErinJeff]

The original preflop raiser is a total minriase UTG idiot with stats of 58/50/1.9 over about 30 hands. The reraiser is 50/12/4 over only 14 hands. My plan was to 3bet isolate against the original raiser but when I got preempted by the raise to 20BB I reconsidered. I expected a push from raiser 1 given how he had been playing. My question, is this a pretty standard fold preflop facing a largish 3bet ahead of me? What if I don't expect a push from raiser 1? Thanks for your thoughts.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $20
Hero (BTN): $24.30
SB: $17.50
BB: $17.45
UTG: $24.65
UTG+1: $17.35
MP1: $9.55
MP2: $8.85

CO posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: A:spade: K:club: dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.75, MP2 folds, CO raises to $5,
HERO??

[gumbie]

Push please

[Jernej Zorec]

and shove twice on Sunday

[Felting]

We are a serious dog to just two hands, AA and KK. We are a slight dog to PP's but there should be enough dead money after we push to cover that and we are way ahead of any unpaired hand other than AKs.

Most likely range for player 3betting AA-1010, AK to AJ.

Yep it looks like a Push to me.

[Ciso_B]

Really, shove. Surprised everyone thinks a shove is good here. He raised huge pre flop so you know they only playing back with very strong hands. Eh I dunno, Im not saying I wouldn't shove for sure or not. Just not an insta shove for me here. But then this is very low stakes, maybe they're bad enough to re pop you here with crapper hands.

[Felting]

But then this is very low stakes, maybe they're bad enough to re pop you here with crapper hands.

That's the key, at that level you are as likely to see KJ or A8 as cowboys or rockets.

[MrDarling]

I do not agree that this is an automatic push.

The idiot minraiser actually made a more then normal big raise, which to me very often mean a biggish hand (readless, especially someone who min raise a lot) so I put his range TT+, AQ+ ...
Hard to put the 3 bettor on a hand since the sample size is small, but at these stake I'll assign the same range to him...

If this was higher stakes this will be an easy fold (or maybe sometimes calling if you think there is a good chance MP will not push) the problem is not what they folding, the problem is what are they calling you with. In low stakes they will call with AJ+ and probably TT+, so I think without any specific reads, it makes this play natrual EV...
In higher stake where most of the time you will only get called when crushed, makes this move bad IMO.

[gumbie]

Neither of these players has a full stack.

[tame_deuces]

Easy shove.

[tame_deuces]

In higher stake where most of the time you will only get called when crushed, makes this move bad IMO.

Not with these stack sizes and pot sizes no, it would actually be pretty golden.

That being said, with these odds it takes a horrible player to fold much vs our shove anyway.

[MrDarling]

I have to admit I missed few things from the HH.

MP+1 Stack size and the fact that CO posted a live blind.
Yep in this case a push is correct.

My point was for a normal 100BB effective stacks against semi decent players.

[Jernej Zorec]

decent players have wider range makes move a good one again

[ErinJeff]

The mob wisdom is right as usual.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $20
Hero (BTN): $24.30
SB: $17.50
BB: $17.45
UTG: $24.65
UTG+1: $17.35
MP1: $9.55
MP2: $8.85

CO posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: A:spade: K:club: dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.75, MP2 folds, CO raises to $5, 3 folds, MP1 raises to $9.55 and is All-In, CO calls $4.55

Flop: ($19.45) T:heart: K:heart: 9:spade: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($19.45) 2:club: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($19.45) K:spade: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $19.45 Pot ($0.95 Rake)
CO showed J:spade: J:club: (two pair, Kings and Jacks) and WON $18.50 (+$8.95 NET)
MP1 showed J:diamond: T:diamond: (two pair, Kings and Tens) and LOST (-$9.55 NET)

[ErinJeff]

{ AsKc } 40%; { JcJs } 43%; { JdTd } 17%