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Stop me from spewing in this hand

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Stop me from spewing in this hand

Postby ErinJeff » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:17 pm GMT

odi (15/11/3 over 475) seems to be a reg at NL50, but I have limited hands at this level. Powerpott is a total spewtard 42/3/2 over 100. I raise this pretty big on the flop, hoping for a cbet fold. Now that spewtard is gone how do I proceed. Odi probably has me at 15/9/3 over our sample.

I feel like if I slow down on the turn I'm wide open to a river push and then what? Any meaningful turn bet needs to be a bet that commits me, but I probably only get called by hands that crush me.

PokerStars Game #18699643851: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/09 - 15:51:22 (ET)
Table 'Lola' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jwalker386 ($88.45 in chips)
Seat 2: ErinJeff ($45.25 in chips)
Seat 3: tom65432 ($128.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Johnytop ($54.15 in chips)
Seat 5: japo07 ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 6: alprausch ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: odi385 ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 8: C-YABUDDY174 ($27.85 in chips)
Seat 9: powerpott ($38.40 in chips)
tom65432: posts small blind $0.25
Johnytop: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Qs As]
japo07: folds
alprausch: folds
odi385: raises $1.25 to $1.75
C-YABUDDY174: folds
powerpott: calls $1.75
jwalker386: folds
ErinJeff: calls $1.75
tom65432: folds
Johnytop: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d Ks Ah]
odi385: bets $4.50
powerpott: calls $4.50
ErinJeff: raises $10 to $14.50
odi385: calls $10
powerpott: folds
*** TURN *** [3d Ks Ah] [5d]
odi385: checks
ErinJeff: ??
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:15 am GMT

what do you beat? (I reraise pre btw)
just check behind and maybe call any reasonable river bet. betting the turn is badddddd
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Postby Jernej Zorec » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:39 am GMT

i dont play fr but i wouldnt rr an tight ep raiser with AQ, since that will mostly make him fold weaker hands if there are any at all and will only call with hands ur in bad shape against

as for the turn its easy check and call a reasonable bet on river
since i think thats only way to get value from worst hands
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:54 am GMT

Pot control the turn by checking behind, and call a reasonable river bet as others said. Only bet the turn if he is ultra spewy, but I still expect to be ahead the majority of the time.
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Postby MrDarling » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:08 pm GMT

miaowmiaowchowface wrote:what do you beat? (I foldpre btw)...
FYT

I see no reason to play this to a tight EP opener. And raising is really bad since we folding all the hands we want to play against and getting called by hands we don't want to play against.

As for the flop, if this was HU you should never raise here (unless your playing against a reg and sometimes raise your AIR and your weak draws).
However since the bad player is in the pot you probably want to raise the reg out of the pot and get the bad player to come along...

Since this plan didn't work we should consider what the bad player can have. Will he really flat us with Top Two or a set here? If not, can we get two street of value from a weaker made hand?
I say check turn, and if he chk river you can value bet. If he bet river, its probably a fold against most decent regs, since he probably never vbet AJ or worse without history.
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Postby Ensano » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:57 pm GMT

xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:Pot control the turn by checking behind, and call a reasonable river bet as others said. Only bet the turn if he is ultra spewy, but I still expect to be ahead the majority of the time.


+1 ... pot control and all that...
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Postby cayouche » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:23 pm GMT

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