street by street on a sick and twisted hand

[Felting]

Okay, I want to take this hand street by street to see how bad(or good ) my decisions where.

This was a live 3/6 kill game at 7 Feather's in Canyonville, OR. I'm on the button, big blind was a tricky LAG and UTG was a solid player who overvalued his starting hands. The table has been running for several hours and I've played against most the players before. Rest of the table was donksville. No one was short stacked.

I'm dealt 5 6

UTG opens and behind him there are 3 more limpers. I raise on the button(I'm trying to be more aggressive with position). the SB calls and the BB raises, this was the 3rd or 4th time he's 3 bet a button raise from me. UTG caps it at 4bets, the 3 limpers between me and the UTG call. I feel at this point that while 4 bets is steep for seeing a flop with five six suited, the pot odds are saying call. The SB folds and the BB calls.

So we go to the flop 6 ways.

Let the preflop commentary begin

[Ensano]

i like it... raising builds a nice pot with good odds to draw... and you have pos

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Even 6-way I don't think your equity warrants a raise, even on the button. However, once you're in, you're never folding preflop after that action.

[crack]

If this guy has 3 bet you 3 out of 4 times or whatever why bother raising? Ok the players did call, but what you may find happening is that the SB folds, the BB raises and may end up forcing out all the other players if they have limped perhaps resulting in you playing a hu or 3 handed pot with not a great hand that if doesn't flop good may be forced to fold on the flop.

Just limp it, don't worry about being aggressive in position. Just try and be aggressive in the right spots and this imo isn't one of them.

After the action has come like that you are never folding this pre now with all that money in.

[Felting]

Flop 5 5 3

Not bad but I did have some concerns. The one hand I got to see from the BB where he 3bet me prior was A8o so A5 didn't seem out of the question for him. As for the donk triplets, x5 sooooted couldn't be ruled out.

UTG led out. That didn't surprise me at all. His limp/raise move preflop seemed straight out of super system so I put him on a big pair and that board looks pretty good for a big pair. All 3 donks call.

My debate was raise or call, obviously I'm not folding here. I went with raise, the big blind called 2 bets and the UTG called. We lost the middle donk but the first and 3rd one called.

[HalfSugar]

Flop 5 5 3

Not bad but I did have some concerns. The one hand I got to see from the BB where he 3bet me prior was A8o so A5 didn't seem out of the question for him. As for the donk triplets, x5 sooooted couldn't be ruled out.

You flop gin and begin to panic? Start shipping chips in and see what happens on the turn. I know you raised but that first paragraph is scary.

[HalfSugar]

PS. I think position in cheap Limit games is over-rated. Really over-rated. In my opinion, raising here because of position is fairly meaningless.

[crack]

I'm not going to be concerned about a better 5 in this position. Seriously, there is only one left.

I would raise rather than slowplay, you build an even bigger pot and the fact that you did raise preflop, your hand is very much disguised. They hardly going to put you on a 5 or 33. Hopefully the UTG dude will 3 bet all the others that called the original bet will call and then you get to cap it creating a monster pot.

There is a case for raising on a more expensive street, but then I think you define your hand and players tend to get incredibly scared when you call flop and raise turns in my experience. Also, by raising the flop and getting a capped pot, UTG may feel pretty confident if he has AA and may lead the betting on a low turn card and hopefully trapping the other players in the middle with another raise.

[Felting]

While the dealer is burning and turning both the donks are occupied with placing food orders with the waitress.

turn 7

To me this seemed like a great card. Rainbow'd the board and not paint to hit a big pair.

UTG checks, with some prodding by the dealer both donks check, I bet, BB calls, UTG c/r's. Now this didn't concern me too much, I was still putting him on a big pair.

By this time the two donks had finished with there food order, the first donk folds but the second donk raises. F#$% me, was he over betting his two pair or did he just hit 7's full?

I raised capping it, BB calls, UTG calls, donk calls.

[Ensano]

just keep pounding the hell out of every street...

[crack]

It going to depend on what sort of donk it is. To cold 3 bet in this spot is a pretty strong move, especially if it's a passive fish and it's on the turn.

I think with this action and the amount of players you're in against I think you have to start slowing down. Before he does that it's pretty standard from you.

If he is just a silly retard who is drunk and has no clue what he is doing then go ahead and cap.

[Felting]

river card is 3

Well if i was ahead before I must still be ahead with that 3.

UTG checks
Donk bets
Hero raises
BB calls
UTG calls
Donk raises
Hero cap
BB calls
UTG calls
Donk calls

Everyone showed so lets play guess what all 3 had.

[crack]

Aces
5
Kwads
Sevens full

Who cares really.

I said before I would have slowed down a bit on the turn and river, but you know what? This is 3/6 against retards and ppl keep calling when they must be beat at least by one player so maybe you are right to keep raising.

[HalfSugar]

Donk has 77.

[Felting]

BB A 3 off (WTF was he thinking?)

UTG AA (no surprise)

Donk 6 4 off (F#ck me I rivered him)


Took me three hands to stack that pot