Tip - Dont get greedy

[MrDarling]

If villain bet closer to pot on this flop I would have folded :

Full Tilt Poker Game #5646173574: $9,500 KO Guarantee (42266550), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:16:34 ET - 2008/03/15
Seat 1: whizz44 (3,440)
Seat 2: rocky1197 (3,816)
Seat 3: hunter_48 (1,920)
Seat 4: calvinklein44 (2,085)
Seat 5: beland66 (1,865)
Seat 6: Hero (2,099)
Seat 7: peebs16 (1,402)
Seat 8: fool88 (1,900)
Seat 9: clskla (3,213)
peebs16 posts the small blind of 15
fool88 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Td]
clskla folds
whizz44 folds
rocky1197 calls 30
hunter_48 raises to 90
calvinklein44 has 15 seconds left to act
calvinklein44 is sitting out
calvinklein44 has timed out
calvinklein44 folds
beland66 calls 90
Hero calls 90
peebs16 calls 75
fool88 folds
rocky1197 calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ad Js Kh]
peebs16 checks
rocky1197 checks
hunter_48 bets 130
beland66 has 15 seconds left to act
beland66 folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero calls 130
peebs16 calls 130
rocky1197 folds
calvinklein44 has returned
*** TURN *** [Ad Js Kh] [Qc]
peebs16 checks
hunter_48 checks
Hero bets 399
peebs16 folds
hunter_48 calls 399
*** RIVER *** [Ad Js Kh Qc] [6h]
hunter_48 checks
Hero bets 1,480, and is all in
hunter_48 calls 1,301, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 179 returned to Hero
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero shows [Jd Td] a straight, Ace high
hunter_48 mucks
Hero wins the pot (4,270) with a straight, Ace high
hunter_48 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,270 | Rake 0
Board: [Ad Js Kh Qc 6h]
Seat 1: whizz44 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: rocky1197 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: hunter_48 mucked [Ks Kd] - three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: calvinklein44 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: beland66 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Hero (button) showed [Jd Td] and won (4,270) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 7: peebs16 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: fool88 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: clskla didn't bet (folded)

[Muck]

I think the greediest move was the low pre-flop raise from EP. As you said expensive for him in the end.

[Felting]

Gave you great pot and implied odds to chase your gutshot.

That's why I keep most my bets in the 3/4 pot to pot sized range.

[MrDarling]

Example 2.
Even so short, if villain push with his KK instead of calling I probably fold AQ.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5648696716: $9,500 KO Guarantee (42266550), Table 78 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:43:25 ET - 2008/03/15
Seat 1: Roberro (96,462)
Seat 2: Sly Zim 24 (37,696)
Seat 4: ChipFlip10 (92,899)
Seat 5: MRider06 (93,814)
Seat 6: vollstrecker (75,875)
Seat 7: jaguarxx1 (19,159)
Seat 8: hero (63,886)
Seat 9: Pat2401 (15,256)
Roberro antes 300
Sly Zim 24 antes 300
ChipFlip10 antes 300
MRider06 antes 300
vollstrecker antes 300
jaguarxx1 antes 300
hero antes 300
Pat2401 antes 300
hero posts the small blind of 1,200
Pat2401 posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qs Ac]
Roberro raises to 10,800
Sly Zim 24 folds
squid299 (Observer): KQ is never ahead there
ChipFlip10 folds
MRider06 calls 10,800
vollstrecker folds
jaguarxx1 folds
hero has 15 seconds left to act
hero has requested TIME
vollstrecker: come on shut up
hero raises to 63,586, and is all in
Pat2401 folds
Roberro has 15 seconds left to act
Roberro calls 52,786
MRider06 calls 52,786
*** FLOP *** [As 6d 5d]
Roberro checks
MRider06 bets 29,928, and is all in
Roberro has 15 seconds left to act
Roberro has requested TIME
Roberro folds
MRider06 shows [Kd Ks]
hero shows [Qs Ac]
ChipFlip10: wow
Uncalled bet of 29,928 returned to MRider06
*** TURN *** [As 6d 5d] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [As 6d 5d 2h] [4c]
squid299 (Observer): shippppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
MRider06 shows a pair of Kings
hero shows a pair of Aces
hero wins the pot (195,558) with a pair of Aces
squid299 (Observer): ship ship shipo
*** SUMMARY ***

[crack]

He calls an UTG raise from EP with KK in order to get someone to squeeze with a weaker hand (your AQ) and he is wrong based on one result?

wow.

[MrDarling]

good point crack.

Though his mistake is of course not raising when it comes back after to him after I pushed.
and then pushing on that board on a dead side pot is pretty stupid. would have been kind of funny if other player would have wok up with AT that he couldn't fold..

[crack]

Example 2.
Even so short, if villain push with his KK instead of calling I probably fold AQ.

Was the "mistake" you were referring to though. I think the other wasn't really relevant imo. He just called your 50+k push, he would prolly not be folding his hand for an extra 30k PF.

I hope you request time and push with AA/KK/QQ in that spot as well btw.

[Felting]

Nice to see you had a cheering section there MrD.

[MrDarling]

I never really said villain made a mistake. I just said being greedy can be expensive.

... I think the other wasn't really relevant imo. He just called your 50+k push, he would prolly not be folding his hand for an extra 30k PF.

All the more reason to put it in when you are likely have the best hand. UTG most likely holding is TT+ and maybe AT+ . He is not going to put any extra money in a dead side pot unless he out flop villain.

[crack]

Oh well, seems like that is what you are implying really. You said he could have got you to fold if he raised it, but run it all in and he is over 2:1 fav. You call it greedy, I call it outplaying you/whoever tries that move.

Yeah bit of a mystery why he didn't just push and get the other guy all in. Maybe a misclick or something. Dunno.

[MrDarling]

Yeah bit of a mystery why he didn't just push and get the other guy all in. Maybe a misclick or something. Dunno.

No misclick. he was a fish!