To call here?

[odlozilik]

Full Tilt Poker Game #12525318536: Table Shane (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:10:47 ET - 2009/05/30

Seat 1: Flowbee69 ($54.50)
Seat 2: Art Figueroa Jr ($6.05)
Seat 3: rofefil ($20)
Seat 4: Valleyo ($30.15)
Seat 5: juanitoflacito ($163.05)
Seat 6: odlozilik ($51.60)

Art Figueroa Jr posts the small blind of $0.25
rofefil posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to odlozilik [Ac Jc]

Valleyo folds
juanitoflacito folds
odlozilik raises to $1.75
Flowbee69 calls $1.75
Art Figueroa Jr folds
rofefil folds

*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc Ah]

odlozilik has 15 seconds left to act
odlozilik bets $3
Flowbee69 calls $3

*** TURN *** [Jd Qc Ah] [5h]

odlozilik has 15 seconds left to act
odlozilik bets $7
Flowbee69 calls $7

*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc Ah 5h] [2d]

odlozilik checks
Flowbee69 bets $42.75, and is all in
odlozilik has 15 seconds left to act
odlozilik ??


Do you like the river check?

[Ciso_B]

Yeah call imo.

Why not bet yourself on the river though?

[kingetje]

Do you like the river check?

no. why on earth did you do it?

and i would call

[odlozilik]

Well, my logic is: if villain missed the draw and I bet the river, he folds for sure, because I am too committed to fold almost anything to possible bluff. If, by some chance, I am beat here, I have to call the raise anyway, so I would save some chips by just check calling. I didn't expect the shove though.
Well, I would miss some value if villain had weak ace and checked behind, but it's closed.

[kingetje]

Well, my logic is: if villain missed the draw

uhh, which draw????

[supafrey]

The only "draw" that missed that would be here is like KQ or KJ and both might call a river bet.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

im betting the river, and also calling the river but tbh if he was bluffing he'd bet smaller most times, but we also beat alot of his value range

[odlozilik]

Ok, what is the most probable villain's holding he calls 2 streets with? Isn't it exactly KQ, KJ, JT, QT? Is he calling the river often here?

[**QUADS**]

Never checking the river here and snap call his shove.

[kingetje]

Ok, what is the most probable villain's holding he calls 2 streets with? Isn't it exactly KQ, KJ, JT, QT? Is he calling the river often here?

and do you think hes betting the river with those as a bluff when you check? NO! hes gonna check behind...

[odlozilik]

OK guys, I respect your thoughts.
I have called, villain shows K 9 .