Trying to find the right probability calculator....help!

[DavidvstheWorld]

I'm looking to find the right calculator/database/graph to help me work out the calculations for making my own spreadsheet for playing purposes etc.

Basically I'd like to know the odds of me winning/losing/splitting(and how many i split with if possible) a game without knowing any of the other players hands and before the community cards are revealed.

I would like to make myself a spreadsheet with this data based on all 169 distinct starting hands(not 1326 since opponents cards are unknown) with the final variable being number of opponents(2-12 including myself).

Obviously this is a ridiculous amount of math to be done considering neither the opponent cards(1-11) or the 5 community cards are known which is why I'm searching for this info rather than calculating it.

I also understand that this information is very much theoretical and would only be practical in a game in which every player matched big blind and nobody raised or folded at any point but i'd still like this info if possible.

Thanks in advance, David.

[jimmer]

Is this for some statistical study or just so you have better informed desicions when deciding your move?

[DavidvstheWorld]

The latter basically. Better informed decision and also to help understand tier lists of starting hands. There are a few starting hand tier lists out there and I'd like some insight over the mathematical probability that goes into deciding these tiers. Cheers.

[HalfSugar]

As a start, I'd recommend that you download PokerStove. Whilst this will not do everything you need, it will give you equity calculations for 2-10 player tables comparing distinct hands vs any range(s).

You could basically run through all 169 permutations against the hand range of 'any two cards' and see what drops out. Obviously you'd have to run each permutation vs table sizes that range from 2-10 so that is 1,521 iterations and therefore incredibly time consuming but if you have the patience, it will give you a lot of data. Be aware that as the number of players increases, where the ranges used are 'any two cards' (known as just 'random' in PokerStove) the time to calculate equity figures accurately increases exponentially. Against one opponent is almost instantaneous.

[DavidvstheWorld]

Thanks very much HalfSugar. This program seems very good. Much appreciated.