Turn decision

[Ciso_B]

This particular hand was interesting, happened few minutes ago. I obv 3 bet the QQ here, the guy opening is new to table and no notes..the guy in the bb is an agressive player from what I've seen.

I hate it being 3 way, but eh, what can you do... my decision is on turn here...do we agree the overcaller never has 33,44,or 55 here? The only hand I thought im behind to is 99....and after the bb checks when i check, QQ is always good imo. So do we call?

And before anyone asks why i checked turn, If i bet im committed, and I wanted to check/decide. Say it goes bet/raise turn I can fold Q-Q here imo.


PokerStars Game #33287202996: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2009/09/25 21:16:35 ET
Table 'Briseis' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: drakemaddox ($95.75 in chips)
Seat 3: TheKaas ($120.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Neab ($117 in chips)
Seat 6: tumblest0ne ($106.50 in chips)
Neab: posts small blind $0.50
tumblest0ne: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [Qs Qd]
drakemaddox: raises $1 to $2
TheKaas: folds
Neab: raises $5 to $7
tumblest0ne: calls $6
drakemaddox: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [4h 5h 3d]
Neab: bets $11
tumblest0ne: calls $11
drakemaddox: calls $11
*** TURN *** [4h 5h 3d] [9d]
Neab: checks
tumblest0ne: checks
drakemaddox: bets $77.75 and is all-in
Neab: calls $77.75
tumblest0ne: folds

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Against most "standard" 100NL players this is probably a snap-call IMO.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

i dont really know how these games play, so its tough to answer

also i remember grinding like 600nl with the kaas lol

[HalfSugar]

Wheel right?

[Ciso_B]

not wheel , 95s, I know im good vs tumblestone, and felt like mr 9-5 would re raise all hands that beat Q-Q on flop after bet and call on this board. Reason I checked turn mostly was cos 99 was well within range, plus i can fold still if its bet and riase behind, once tumblestone flats then checks aswell, i felt like would be a bit retarded to fold Q-Q to his all in move.

[AHBrownell]

raise more preflop, you need 95s to fold. I'd make it like 9 preflop. Then on that flop your bet seems a little small to me, but its not terrible. I'd probably fold to that bet on the turn a lot of the time. You might be ahead, but what is he jamming with here? Unless he is a complete fish he has a hand. Some thing like A 6 makes sense, or a set. 95 shouldn't be in anybody's range, but then if he is a really loose player, you could give him weird paired hands like that too. According to his stats, I might call the turn, but I wouldn't like it. You just have to be right more than half the time, and I just don't like it with QQ.

If I'm in this same spot with AA, its a much closer call imo. We beat hands like A 5 or 6 6 .

With QQ I just cannot give him that many hands that I can beat. I'd also say that his bet tends to mean strength - if he just put in like 30 when you check, I'd probably shove over it, because that looks like a draw or a 66, A4 type of hand. We beat TT, JJ, 88, 77, which are also in his range. So i just think we are ahead when he bets a normal 2/3s pot sized bet or less. But a shove looks like he thinks he's ahead and wants all draws out. If he thinks he's ahead there are only a couple hands we beat in his range. TT JJ are the two that come to my mind. Everything else beats us.

I fold.