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What is the right move here?

Postby HalfSugar » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:50 pm GMT

Live game yesterday, playing six handed with 11 players to go. I had just been crushed losing vs a short stack AIPF with QQ vs their 77. This hand arose and I want opinions on the right move here:

Blinds 500/1,000, ante 100
BB - 4,700 (me)
UTG - 8,000
UTG+1 - 8,000
CO - 16,000
BTN - 800
SB - 26,000

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, BTN all-in (less than BB), SB calls. I look down at 22, I have 3,600 in chips, the short stack is all-in for an under-call and the two biggest stacks have limped.

What is the right move here?
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Re: What is the right move here?

Postby Adamm » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:06 pm GMT

Easy shove. You're losing 2100 every short rotation. If you wait for a better hand, you only have 12 hands more to get it (starting with 25% less of a stack next hand). 3600 into a 4400 pot might get the limpers out and the all-in player could have anything, definitely worth the value to get heads up with him.

Also, the most likely scenario when you limp: you limp, you miss, sb checks...you have to check or go all-in. You probably have to go all-in there because it's an amazing value for a steal. Might as well try and get it heads-up preflop instead of hoping they both miss the flop (or getting into the terrible situation where you limp, you miss, sb RAISES...and you have to fold like a n00b).
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Re: What is the right move here?

Postby Soup_dog » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:08 am GMT

shove for sure... like adamm said.
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Re: What is the right move here?

Postby HalfSugar » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:51 pm GMT

I did indeed shove without much thought. I actually got the CO to fold but that was partly because he thought I'd shoved for more than 3,600 because when the SB requested a count, he said as much!

I figured that if I could get the CO and SB to fold, I'd drag the dead 600 out of the pot which the BTN couldn't win and then be flipping for the 3,400 in there. To me, that seemed like a good spot with my stack and of course 22 is a big dog against any more than two overs.

The SB thought about it for a bit then called with 73o, BTN showed J8o, both made two pair and I was out. Afterwards there was a moment when I wondered if I could have just checked in the BB, taken a flop and then check/folded where necessary but that's basically giving up 1,100 of my meagre 4,700 chips with a pot of 3,400+600 up for grabs and a chance (no matter how slender) to get the pot HU and be only in for 500 after dragging 600 dead chips back.

Oh well, I guess I'd have to play it the same way every time and I did the right thing :)
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