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What table image do you prefer ?

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Postby MrDarling » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:15 pm GMT

I usually prefer to have a Tight table image.
I enjoy when I'm consider real TAG and people actually fold if I think about betting.

When I got a LAG table image I do more poorly ...
My continues bet get called and I get outdrawn more often.

So which do you prefer and why?
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Postby UrAteUp » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:20 pm GMT

I prefer TAG...once I establish a TAG image then I can loosen up and still get respect for having big hands.
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Postby MasterShake » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:37 pm GMT

Most of my friends know me as a TAG player. I'm usually considered one of the two most conservative players at the table, which suits me fine.
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Postby Skribbles » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:05 pm GMT

I see ten more posts coming of people claiming TAG...


Amazing how every single person on this forum plays the exact same way!
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Postby supafrey » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:17 pm GMT

... Lag?

happy?
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Postby crack » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:23 pm GMT

Table image is overrated at lower levels. most of the players are not observant enough.
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Postby suitedaces84 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:54 pm GMT

It's funny how little your image has to do with your play. Most images are developed though results. If you run good you'll get a "solid table image" even if you don't deserve it. If you run bad you'll be the "loose aggressive idiot" who's stuck a buy-in even if you've never been out of line.

My favorite table image: 'the guy who has my money'.
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Postby khaosanroad » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:21 pm GMT

If you are playing really tight (10-18% flops) then people do notice, and having a TAG image does make it easier to bluff unless you start doing it too much.
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Postby TheSalche » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:51 am GMT

suitedaces84 wrote:My favorite table image: 'the guy who has my money'.


you're image doesn't matter all that much at the low limits, except when people are thinking and try to run you over when you're on a losing streak

most would reccommend TAG at full ring and LAG short-handed, but this is certainly not set in stone, the exact opposite may be better for you

i play mostly TAG, but i can raise with 67s in first position :D
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Postby MrDarling » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:57 am GMT

You see, I wasn't talking about your actual play style, I was talking about an image.
I actually prefer Tight , not Tight Aggressive.

does it change more when you play live?

Would it benefit if players where thinking you are a fish, or a noob and will try to push you around? That can be very profitable once you get the cards...
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Postby khaosanroad » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:48 am GMT

Some pros have commented on getting raped by good online players who venture into a casino for the first time.

They see a person being a little clumsy with their chips, and think fish, only to lose a chunk of cash and find out that the person is really good, but never played live before.
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Postby supafrey » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:24 am GMT

A lesson in image:

This is me, doing my sexy face, dressed how i showed up to the casino last time.

Image

Hardly the image of tight, solid poker.

Mix in some polite but thickly nervous chatter, asking a couple questions about the blinds on the table, and a general sense of quietness, and suddenly I'm scared money instead. A newb that has a ridiculous enough haircut to:

1. Get noticed.
2. Get immediately "labelled".

After a couple glances around the table, it wasn't exactly hard to figure out who was paying close attention to me and who wasn't. I notice who's leading the betting, who's trying to keep the action going, and who's wearing those ridiculous hat/sunglasses combos, and suddenly I know everyone at the table that's a grinder/dealer and suddenly I have my marks.

The rest of the night involved me check raising - alot. Why? Because when scared money check raises, scared money is apparantly supposed to have the nuts. Any weakness from the "smarter" people on the table resulted in an INSTANT raise from. Bets of $30 to $40 were met with me calmly reaching under my stack and putting out a $100 bill as my raise... Usually to complaints and whines about "not being able to call that".

Remember - it's not your particular image that matters. It's about using your opponents overcompensation to your image that really reels in the big bucks. Remember that poker isn't exactly a complex game of dogfights for small pots - if you use your image to win just one or two BIG pots in key situations, it may be the small edge that turns a mediocre session into a good one or, even better, lets you build that stack up early to bully around the table.
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Postby shorn7 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:52 am GMT

I actually prefer to not be noticed at all for anything. That way, your opponents have no way of knowing where you are in any given hand.

That being said, I think the preferred image is a LAG as in NL you are looking to get paid off on yur big hands and most of the time TAG's have a problem with this. So, I try to splash around pre-flop and on the flop, so that when the big money goes in, folks are more likely to call.
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Postby Aves » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:46 am GMT

VLAGGGGGGGGGGG
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Postby Jauron » Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:01 pm GMT

You should normally prefer the opposite of what you are.

I still prefer TAG image in tourney's because people are more willing to gamble and I need to give them more reasons to fold when I need it. I feel I have a pretty decent system that gets me paid off enough to live with the image being true, plus I can bluff easier.

In money games I really try to promote the LAG image, if you can throw a few bucks around early or in a key situation it can pay for itself many times over later.
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