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What to do with the river minraise?

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What to do with the river minraise?

Postby ErinJeff » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:37 pm GMT

MP1 hasn't been around long but seems like a standard station once he gets a piece of a flop. He previously called a pfr with K3o, and called allin on a 3flush flop K hi. On this hand I'm interested in what to do on this river. The flush draw got there but I have a hand with showdown value. Anyone raise this minraise, check as first to act and see what villain does, or fold?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $20.55
Hero (BB): $23.90
UTG: $25.80
UTG+1: $6.20
MP1: $20.75
MP2: $29.25
CO: $28.05
BTN: $21.45

Pre-Flop: J:heart: 9:club: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.85) 7:diamond: 8:diamond: J:spade: (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.10) T:heart: (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.75, MP1 calls $2.75, BTN folds

River: ($8.60) 5:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 raises to $6, Hero ??
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:40 pm GMT

I don't see how we can do anything but call, even though I think we're cooked.
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Postby MrDarling » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:45 pm GMT

I always call those. especially when your bet was small compare to the pot.
Most of the time we're beat, but we don't have to be right all that often to make it correct.
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Postby ErinJeff » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:50 pm GMT

What about this one? Villain in this hand is 43/14/1 over 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $28.10
Hero (BB): $24.65
UTG: $11.70
UTG+1: $46.25
UTG+2: $7
MP1: $7.60
MP2: $33.10
CO: $25.70
BTN: $9.40

Pre-Flop: J:club: Q:spade: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 3:spade: K:heart: Q:heart: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.25) J:diamond: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds

River: ($3.25) 4:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $4.25, Hero ??
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:36 am GMT

ErinJeff wrote:What about this one? Villain in this hand is 43/14/1 over 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $28.10
Hero (BB): $24.65
UTG: $11.70
UTG+1: $46.25
UTG+2: $7
MP1: $7.60
MP2: $33.10
CO: $25.70
BTN: $9.40

Pre-Flop: J:club: Q:spade: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 3:spade: K:heart: Q:heart: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.25) J:diamond: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds

River: ($3.25) 4:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $4.25, Hero ??


What's beating you?
I'd be considering raising again for value
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Postby Yozman » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:32 am GMT

yeh u shud b infront erinjeff but i just call here as some donks at small levels play big hands strange
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Postby Jauron » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:40 pm GMT

miaowmiaowchowface wrote:
ErinJeff wrote:What about this one? Villain in this hand is 43/14/1 over 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $28.10
Hero (BB): $24.65
UTG: $11.70
UTG+1: $46.25
UTG+2: $7
MP1: $7.60
MP2: $33.10
CO: $25.70
BTN: $9.40

Pre-Flop: J:club: Q:spade: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 3:spade: K:heart: Q:heart: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.25) J:diamond: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds

River: ($3.25) 4:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $4.25, Hero ??


What's beating you?
I'd be considering raising again for value


I'm calling here a lot, but I'm rarely raising. What beats us? Almost everything that would raise the river except a dumb bluff and smaller 2 pair.
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:57 pm GMT

Jauron wrote:
miaowmiaowchowface wrote:
ErinJeff wrote:What about this one? Villain in this hand is 43/14/1 over 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $28.10
Hero (BB): $24.65
UTG: $11.70
UTG+1: $46.25
UTG+2: $7
MP1: $7.60
MP2: $33.10
CO: $25.70
BTN: $9.40

Pre-Flop: J:club: Q:spade: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 3:spade: K:heart: Q:heart: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.25) J:diamond: (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds

River: ($3.25) 4:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $4.25, Hero ??


What's beating you?
I'd be considering raising again for value


I'm calling here a lot, but I'm rarely raising. What beats us? Almost everything that would raise the river except a dumb bluff and smaller 2 pair.


Didn't bet the flop... didn't raise the turn... all this in position.
Could be a set/KQ played retardedly, but the best I come up with is K4. maybe 44 lol

I'm calling most of the time too though, but I think raising can be considered depending on player
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Postby Jauron » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:49 pm GMT

I meant to say nothing that we beat should be calling another raise...
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