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When you are first to enter the pot....

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When you are first to enter the pot....

Postby Felting » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:21 pm GMT

Do You?

A)always raise

B)mostly raise but limp once in a while to mix it up

C)base limping vs. raising on your hand

D)usually limp

How does the blind levels, stack sizes, position, hand strength, reads on other players, etc. affect the amount of your raise?
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Postby LeeG » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:29 pm GMT

I practically never limp in an unopened pot. I'll flat call a raise many times in late position depending on lots of factors.
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:08 pm GMT

B. Almost always raise in a tournament if I'm first to enter the pot. Occasionally I'll open limp with something like a small PP, but only on the right table... I can add limping with AA/KK to this mix to avoid automatically being labeled as weak for limping, but if people frequently raise behind me, I'll frequently dump all my weak hands OOP.
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Postby Ensano » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:18 pm GMT

i play a lot of cash games and in EP-MP+3 i'll limps with many hands being the first in... i like to try and encourage the limp-along effect
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Postby Jernej Zorec » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:24 am GMT

i have 20 vpip 13pfr , and raise first in is 8% , but thats a lot of limit hands from full ring also where i rarely had a chance to be first in
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Re: When you are first to enter the pot....

Postby Muck » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:44 am GMT

Felting wrote:Do You?

A)always raise

B)mostly raise but limp once in a while to mix it up

C)base limping vs. raising on your hand

D)usually limp

E) It depends.

Felting wrote:How does the blind levels, stack sizes, position, hand strength, reads on other players, etc. affect the amount of your raise?

A very great deal.

I’m not even going to drop in a pearl of wisdom because as soon as I finish the sentence I’d have to start adding [i]“except whenâ€
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Re: When you are first to enter the pot....

Postby Felting » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:12 pm GMT

Muck wrote:IMHO the best way to answer a question with all of these influencing factors is to invest in some literature.


I have a bookcase full of them. Just making use of the forum for more info.

I watch as much as I can on TV, read the mag's, watch stuff on youtube, etc. Really am trying to be a student of the game.
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Postby Kemics » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:02 pm GMT

i usually only limp with small PP or suited connectors, at the tables i play, more often than not i use position rather than my cards to judge what to raise
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Postby Sean_in_NJ » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:31 pm GMT

It's entirely dependent on the table, my stack and the stacks of those to act behind me.

If I have a decent pile of chips in front of me and my opponents are a) on the weak-tight side and b) not so short that they have to push with the first ace-or-face they see, then I'll raise with just about any two and I'll do it just about every time I'm given the opportunity. If they start to play back, I reduce the frequency. If they get really, really short, I quit doing it entirely.

For the most part, my cards don't even matter, although I'd like to have at least a suited connector like [8d][3d].
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Postby Felting » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:56 pm GMT

Sean_in_NJ wrote:For the most part, my cards don't even matter, although I'd like to have at least a suited connector like [8d][3d].


I'd actually prefer [7d][3d] that way I at least have a shot at flopping the straight flush when they call.
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Re: When you are first to enter the pot....

Postby Muck » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:51 pm GMT

Felting wrote:
Muck wrote:IMHO the best way to answer a question with all of these influencing factors is to invest in some literature.


I have a bookcase full of them. Just making use of the forum for more info.

I agree that poker is something you need to work at, pretty much eternally :) But to get the best value out of forums you're better off posting questions with a smaller scope. E.g. They kick ass for hand analysis. But if you asked “When should I bluffâ€
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