Who was in the right?

[Biolink]

So yeah I'm a beginner Poker player.

I usually play everyday, online poker, but today was the 2nd time I've ever played Live Texas Hold em.

We were playing for approx $25 pot

The other players fold at the table so they're irrelevant.

Its me and a friend left.

The community is

10, 6, 6, 2, 4

We flip

I have a 10, and a 2.

My friend flips, he has a 10, and a King.

They all rule that he got the pot.

We spent 5 minutes arguing, until I just let it go.

Anyways I was under the impression that 2 pairs of cards(In my case a 10 and a 2) are greater than 1 pair (My friends 10), and a high kicker with no match at all(His King).

I feel strongly that I got ripped off at this point, but I got the benefit of having a higher kicker later on or whatever even though my friend had 2 pairs.

Who was in the right?

If anyone's interested we ended up splitting the pot 3 ways at the end out of 5 players, because we were strapped for time. I got $5 so I broke even, and my friend and another guy ended up getting $10 each. I myself knocked out two players. I feel pretty happy, but I made many mistakes, so I'm here to improve.

[Ensano]

both of yout have 2pair.

TT and 66. your 2 is erelevant because there's already a 2 on the board.

your buddy could be playing with only 1 card and still have tied for the pot.


it's a situation that sucks but it happens enough to make it a pain in the ass..

ex Hero has 56

flop comes A 5 6 r...

hero is like yeah i've got da nutz and you and the villian both get all in

villian shows K 6.

turn 2... river A

so the board is now A 5 6 2 A.

you have two pair AA, 66 with a 5kicker
and V has AA, 66 with a K kicker and you lose the pot.

sucks but happens

[Biolink]

Thanks a lot man. I'm emarassed to be asking these question's, but I gotta start somewhere. I did look at the FAQ before posting this time and didn't see the situation I put down outlined.

And to just get this straight from what I understand:

The point is to get a combination of the best 5 cards(Using the community or otherwise...)

The community is EVERYONE'S cards.

In that situation the pair of Aces would go to me and him automatically. Neither of us have another A to make it 3 of a kind, so right off the bat 2 of the highest pair's going to both of us.

The next highest pair would be a pair of 6's. We both had a pair of 6's in our hands.

So that's 4 cards right there between us. We both have 2 pairs each, so its not possible to get another combination of cards(Unless the point would be to get the 6 strongest cards instead of the 5 strongest cards).

That would mean it would come down to whose kicker was bigger since the last two cards in our hands would be considered stand alone. I lose because the other guy has a bigger kicker.

Is that correct?

[Ensano]

got it.

like I said it's a shitty situation and that's why bottom two pair isn't the greatest because it has a high chance of getting counterfeited.

[Biolink]

got it.

like I said it's a shitty situation and that's why bottom two pair isn't the greatest because it has a high chance of getting counterfeited.

So normally you would suggest just folding the hand, if someone starts raising?

I didn't consider that I'd lose that hand the way I did, but I did consider the fact that these weren't exactly world beater players I was going against(Though I myself am still learning the game).

I tried to play what I thought would be winnable hands whenever I could(Even if it was what would be considered a bad hand something like a K and a 2 off-suited).

I got a 3 of a kind, straights twice, and a full house once that way just by waiting around and seeing what happened after the flop, and taking into consideration that these weren't the best players I knew that I wouldn't leave empty handed as long as I let myself have a chance at winning, which is why I would actually try to play hands like a 10 and a 2 depending on what happened after the flop. And if I didn't get what I wanted, most of the time it wasn't at a big consequence.

[HalfSugar]

With regards to whether you should automatically fold two pair, that depends a lot on the situation.

In your example, if the board ended up T, 6, 6, 2, 4 and came out in the that order from left to right, the flop of T, 6, 6 is not that great for your hand because your 2 is never going to play. Pairing the 2 on the turn is meaningless because you already have a higher two pairs with the Ts and 6s.

I wouldn't necessarily suggest automatically folding if someone raises here but there is a good chance that you are beaten because your 2 is so useless.

If the flop had ben T, 6, 2 then that would be much better. If a 6 fell on the turn, well that is just shitty luck because it kills your pair of 2s and opens the door for someone with a better Ten to win with their superior kicker.

[Biolink]

With regards to whether you should automatically fold two pair, that depends a lot on the situation.

In your example, if the board ended up T, 6, 6, 2, 4 and came out in the that order from left to right, the flop of T, 6, 6 is not that great for your hand because your 2 is never going to play. Pairing the 2 on the turn is meaningless because you already have a higher two pairs with the Ts and 6s.

I wouldn't necessarily suggest automatically folding if someone raises here but there is a good chance that you are beaten because your 2 is so useless.

If the flop had ben T, 6, 2 then that would be much better. If a 6 fell on the turn, well that is just shitty luck because it kills your pair of 2s and opens the door for someone with a better Ten to win with their superior kicker.

I see.

That example you gave of T, 6, 2 really changes the entire dimension of the hand I got.

I do believe the flop was T, 6, 6.

I'll chalk that up to inexperience not recognizing what happened. I wish I could go back and play that hand again. I'd probably just fold it up, after my friend was raising.