Your move

[HalfSugar]

Home game 9-handed. Average ~11K, I have 12.5K, Villain has 16K.

Blinds 100/200. I am in BB with

By the time it reaches me there are four limpers plus the button. I make it 1,500 total.

All fold other than MP limper who calls.

Flop

I check. V bets 2,000, I min-raise, he quickly ships it.

Your move.

[golddog]

Call. The important part is:

Home game

(S)he's got AK. Even if a set, I'm going running 4-5 for the wheel anyway.

[crack]

Good luck ever getting me to fold AA on that board with backdoor flush as well unless the player is a total f*cking nitard.

[HalfSugar]

Backdoor flush is worth about 6%? I ignore that shit tbh.

I folded and berated him into showing. It was not the 22 or 33 I had him on. Who the f*ck plays AK that way other than a total noob?! This guy is not a new player and should definitely know better. I mean WTF does he think I am holding in that spot that I will call with that he can beat with AK? I guess I gave him WAY too much credit. Don't worry, I'll f*ck him up in the near future.

[golddog]

Ta Da!

Lucky dog, lucky dog.

[crack]

Even without the bd flush im never folding. Stop trying to be a hero mate.

[HalfSugar]

It's not like I enjoy folding AA there it's just that faced with someone who I know is not a tard, it seems like more of a tard play to snap him off and say gg to 22 or 33 which is WAY more likely than AK here

[golddog]

So good play by him then, thinking a level above you, representing what he thought you thought he had to have?

Or donk play and you outthought yourself?

Or something else, you think?

[HalfSugar]

So good play by him then, thinking a level above you, representing what he thought you thought he had to have?

Or donk play and you outthought yourself?

Or something else, you think?

We spoke about it at the next break and he told me that he figured at best I had AK also and that he had never considered me for AA, KK, 22 or 33.

To be fair to him, holding AK on a board of KXX makes KK highly unlikely with AA also pretty unlikely I guess. He said that he knew I would make that same BB play with ATC so 22 and 33 or even K2, K3, 23 ought to have been in my range in his head and perhaps they were but I guess he discounted them.

I still don't hate my fold at all

[miaowmiaowchowface]

nit

[HalfSugar]

Fish

[BeerWench13]

Disclaimer: I read the OP and haven't read further yet.

I don't know the player, so this makes my points kind of moot, but I'm not folding here. I'd say it's possible they hit their set with 22 or 33, but, more likely have AK or KQ or, even possibly, any two spades. Hell, I've seen similar play with K2 off. I'm still not laying down my AA here. JMHO.

[BeerWench13]

Read the rest. Wow, you must really have respect for this player. I've made some horrible laydowns in my time based solely on respect for my opponent, so I can understand. I still think that I'd have had a hard time mucking those aces.

[HalfSugar]

V's pre-flop action of limp then call a big raise discounts AK from all but the donkeyest of players' ranges for me because why not just open the action themselves or re-raise pre-flop if they limped to be tricky? It says 22 or 33 way more often. Similarly KQ mucks in all but the stupidest of hands.

On the flop, once I min bet I make the pot 9,900 with 7,500 behind. For me that basically means I have little to no fold equity in a vacuum so for V to ship he would have to be VERY confident that his hand is ahead most of the time.

Weighing that up, AK being out there feels very unlikely hence the fold.

You guys must play in some very shitty home games to be snap calling in this spot and being right every time. My home game is not a crap shoot and the vastly exceeds the average man in the street quality

[BeerWench13]

As I said, I didn't know the player, thus my points were only valid based on similar hand experiences that I have had. For the record, some of the home games I have played have been tougher than casino play by far and others very, very fishy, so I've played from all angles. In your OP you really didn't give a lot of information on what kind of play there had been and what your personal read on the villain's play was, so I was filling in the blanks for myself.

I guess I was reading it and trying to think what villain would have played the way he did. In a home cash game, I'm likely to limp call with AK in mid to early position unless it's a very tight table, in which case I would be more likely to raise. I can also see myself pushing over top if my read didn't put you on AA. Given the min re-raise you did on the flop, I would have probably put you on QQ or JJ and done the same thing the opponent did.

Just my two cents.